From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 27 17:07:31 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59D016A41F for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:07:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbergling@0xfce3.net) Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de (einhorn.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BB443D48 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:07:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gbergling@0xfce3.net) X-Envelope-From: gbergling@0xfce3.net Received: from node26.0xfce3.net (port-212-202-34-7.dynamic.qsc.de [212.202.34.7]) (authenticated bits=128) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Debian-4) with ESMTP id j9RH7DM7029511 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:07:16 +0200 Received: from node26.0xfce3.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by node26.0xfce3.net (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j9RH7DNJ001977; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:07:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gbergling@0xfce3.net) Received: (from gordon@localhost) by node26.0xfce3.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j9RH79HJ001976; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:07:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gbergling@0xfce3.net) X-Authentication-Warning: node26.0xfce3.net: gordon set sender to gbergling@0xfce3.net using -f Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:07:09 +0200 From: Gordon Bergling To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20051027170709.GB1901@node26.0xfce3.net> References: <20051027133336.GA740@node26.0xfce3.net> <22908.1130420323@critter.freebsd.dk> <20051027134919.GA858@node26.0xfce3.net> <20051027.093346.04239110.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051027.093346.04239110.imp@bsdimp.com> X-Url: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 i386 X-Host-Uptime: 7:04PM up 3:54, 4 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Spam-Score: * (1.864) AWL,BAYES_50,FORGED_RCVD_HELO,HELO_DYNAMIC_DHCP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang_at_IN-Berlin_e.V. on 192.109.42.8 Cc: gbergling@0xfce3.net, phk@phk.freebsd.dk, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wscons for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:07:32 -0000 * Thus spake M. Warner Losh (imp@bsdimp.com): > In message: <20051027134919.GA858@node26.0xfce3.net> > Gordon Bergling writes: > : * Thus spake Poul-Henning Kamp (phk@phk.freebsd.dk): > : > In message <20051027133336.GA740@node26.0xfce3.net>, Gordon Bergling writes: > : > >I am currently working on project, which refactors a lot of FreeBSDs > : > >console code. > : > > : > Sorry for nitpicking, but just to make sure we're clear about what we > : > talk about here: > : > > : > When you say "console", do you mean > : > "vga+keyboard" ? > : > or > : > "printf(9) destination" ? > : > or > : > "/dev/console" ? > : > or all of the above ? > : > : What I mean was 'all of the above'. My projects aims to modernize > : FreeBSDs console in a big picture. That whould range from "simple" vga > : + keyboard to a possible machine indepent framebuffer API. > > wscons in NetBSD can be a console (as in /dev/console) destination. > Much like sio(4) can be a console in FreeBSD. However, it is really a > framework for integrating one or more frame buffers (vga), with zero > or more keyboards and mice into a coherent input system. > > It is more of a syscons replacement than a solution to the 'console' > issues that you've been keen on working out. With other words, its something desireable to have at FreeBSD? best regards, Gordon -- Gordon Bergling http://www.0xFCE3.net/ PGP Fingerprint: 7732 9BB1 5013 AE8B E42C 28E0 93B9 D32B C76F 02A0 RIPE-HDL: MDTP-RIPE "There is no place like 127.0.0.0/8"