From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sat Sep 22 08:57:29 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563F1109066E; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 08:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ingresso.co.uk) Received: from constantine.ingresso.co.uk (unknown [IPv6:2a02:b90:3002:411::3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E491D8A554; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 08:57:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ingresso.co.uk) Received: from [2a02:b90:3002:411::6] (helo=dilbert.ingresso.co.uk) by constantine.ingresso.co.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1g3djA-0008ZM-Dg; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 08:57:24 +0000 Received: from petefrench by dilbert.ingresso.co.uk with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1g3djA-0004fN-Bx; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 09:57:24 +0100 Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 09:57:24 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, eric@vangyzen.net Subject: Re: Good motherboard for Ryzen (first-gen) References: <205656c3-52a5-a75f-c352-8bf923b47b1f@vangyzen.net> In-Reply-To: <205656c3-52a5-a75f-c352-8bf923b47b1f@vangyzen.net> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: From: Pete French X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 08:57:29 -0000 > I would like to build a Ryzen desktop.? Can anyone recommend a good > motherboard? I have oe of these: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X370-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM but I just saw how much they are charging for it these days! I got one at about half that. I did originally get a B370 based board, but chnaged up for the X370 after I decided on a higher power Ryzen 7 and someone on ths list (can't remember who, sorry) reminded me that it would be more stable with the better quality power supplies on the non budget boards. It's a great board though. Ignore MSI slighly silly (as usual) promotional blurb and look at the specs and it's an excellent piece of kit. > I'm planning on a first-gen, because the second-gen has similar > stability problems as the first-gen had, and AMD hasn't released errata > for the second-gen yet (as far as I know...I would love to be wrong). Note that the Ryzen problems on FreeBSD aren't 100% solved yet - the Linux emulator doesn't work in STABLE, which might affect you ? Since the last BIOS upgrade and the patches in STABLE the system is certainly stable enough for a desktop though. I have only had two lockups since the last set of upgrades and I suspect that might have been related to me running virtual machines under VirtualBox as I stopped doing that and it's been fine ever since. > I would like to be a cool kid with a Threadripper, but I can't justify > the cost, so I'm thinking maybe a Ryzen 7 with /only/ 8 cores.? :) heh, yes, 8 cores and SMT makes for a ridiculously fast machine. Try a buildworld with -j16 on it. > Ideally, I want an Intel NIC, ECC memory support, and a 3-year warranty. Don't know about ECC, but the Titanium has an Intel NIC in it that works fine with igb driver. I used to drop in a separate Intel NIC card as so many of the boards came with cheap Realtek, but I dont have to with this one. Let us know how you get on.... -pete.