Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 23:36:18 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Valentine <mark@thuvia.demon.co.uk> To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman), Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> Cc: cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libncurses Makefile Message-ID: <200209242236.g8OMaIBw081082@dotar.thuvia.org> In-Reply-To: <mailpost.1032905629.80525@thuvia.demon.co.uk>
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> From: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) > Date: Tue 24 Sep, 2002 > Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libncurses Makefile > <<On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:20:09 -0700, Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> said: > > > begins with a +. Or, use 'sort ./+file' like they would already have to > > do for just about every other unix OS on the planet. > > Except for the ones which are (or will soon be) POSIX-compliant. Does POSIX compliance have to be the default mode, though? It's sure useful to be able to have a POSIX environment available, but it's more important that legacy scripts work out of the box. It's my opinion that the POSIX environment should be opt-in, just like /usr/xpg4/bin is still the Solaris 9 method of obtaining standards compliant behaviour over legacy behaviour. My preference would be to have a /usr/posix for utility variants which conflict with the age old BSD behaviour. This mechanism would also serve to replace the EXPR_COMPAT stuff - I'd _really_ be miffed if release 5.0 of my preferred OS becomes the first OS release to break a huge number of the scripts I've written over the past two decades (I apologise for being way overdue in coming up with a migration proposal for that one...). Standards are good. A working system is better. Cheers, Mark. -- Mark Valentine, Thuvia Labs <mark@thuvia.co.uk> <http://www.thuvia.co.uk>; "Tigers will do ANYTHING for a tuna fish sandwich." Mark Valentine uses "We're kind of stupid that way." *munch* *munch* and endorses FreeBSD -- <http://www.calvinandhobbes.com>; <http://www.freebsd.org>; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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