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Date:      Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:42:15 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Kenneth W Cochran <kwc@world.std.com>
To:        josb@cncdsl.com
Cc:        cvs-all@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc group master.passwd
Message-ID:  <200110171942.PAA27945@world.std.com>

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Ok...  Just a suggestion anyway.  As long as things are
documented, I have no really strong feelings either way.  I
(& others :) think "separating" the webserver from other things
(in nobody:nogroup) is a Good Thing(tm).  :)

The rationale I was thinking of is as follows:

1.  user = program-name, group = service-name
2.  User & group both different & "unique" within the system;
reason - faster & easier determination of "who" is doing "what"
(i.e. while pouring over system logs in the middle of the night
with insufficient caffiene-load... ;)  "Hmmm, is that "user"-www
or "group"-www?"  :)

The "beginning" of that rationale is the user:group choice for
named/bind.  Currently, that is bind:bind.  Under the "plan" I
mentioned, that might be something like "bind:dns" but whoever set
that up did so some time ago & probably for Very Good Reason...

Anyway, just a suggestion; www:www seems rather "customary"
anyway & I could live with that just fine, too.

-kc

>Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:00:55 -0701
>From: Jos Backus <josb@cncdsl.com>
>To: cvs-all@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: cvs commit: /src/etc/ group master.passwd
>Reply-To: Jos Backus <josb@cncdsl.com>
>Mail-Followup-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org
>
>On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 10:35:43AM -0400, Kenneth W Cochran wrote:
>> I just now saw the commit adding www:www (80:80) to
>> /etc/{master.passwd,group}.  Might I suggest consideration
>> that the Apache *user* be "apache," i.e. "apache:www (80:80)."
>
>I would argue against this: it should be the name of a service, not the name
>of a particular provider of that service.
>
>-- 
>Jos Backus                 _/  _/_/_/        Santa Clara, CA
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