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Date:      Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:51:09 -0600
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@Denninger.Net>
To:        Richard Wackerbarth <rkw@nomad.dataplex.net>, Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: disklabel baggage.
Message-ID:  <19981216145109.A26118@Denninger.Net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9812161429100.841-100000@nomad.dataplex.net>; from Richard Wackerbarth on Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 02:45:19PM -0600
References:  <199812162001.MAA81180@apollo.backplane.com> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9812161429100.841-100000@nomad.dataplex.net>

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On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 02:45:19PM -0600, Richard Wackerbarth wrote:
> I agree that we need to keep "/" clean.
> However, I do not feel that "/etc/" is at all appropriate for boot
> blocks. "/etc/" is a configuration directory. I routinely overwrite it
> or mount it remotely. "share/" was the original location for auxillary
> files. 
> 
> As for "/usr/?" vs "/?", that should be determined by the need to
> use the blocks in single user salvage mode when we assume that there is
> only one good disk mounted. Do we need to be able to disklabel another
> disk?
> 
> The installed bootfiles are another matter. Obviously, they
> must be located on the root partition. Traditionally, the kernel was
> placed in the root so that the boot loader did not have to understand the
> complexities of traversing directories. Now that we have many more
> bootstrap files, the root seems cluttered. However, since these files are
> used only at boot time, they are easy to simply ignore.

1.	It is ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL in many recovery situations that you be 
	able to run with only ONE partition mountable (and even that
	mountable read-only).  I cannot COUNT the number of times that
	I'd have had to reinstall if I could not do things like set up
	a new disk with only a read-only bootable root slice.

2.	I don't care how cluttered "/" is; I never go there unless I'm 
	doing maintenance.  I do very MUCH care that the tools that I need 
	to do enough with the system to be able to run a partition of a
	disk and a full restore (including one over the network) ARE on 
	that partitiion.

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Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) http://www.mcs.net/~karl
I ain't even *authorized* to speak for anyone other than myself, so give
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