From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 11:59:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6821F16A4CE; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:59:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2A943D4C; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:59:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: from localhost.localdomain (12-230-74-101.client.attbi.com[12.230.74.101]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id <2004010919593301400o4dvne>; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 19:59:34 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i09JvqYS035105; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:57:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i09Jvk8B035104; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:57:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from underway@comcast.net) To: "M. Warner Losh" References: <9td69t98g4.69t@mail.comcast.net> <20040108.213907.112623273.imp@bsdimp.com> <35u1357fbm.135@mail.comcast.net> <20040109.075201.81090753.imp@bsdimp.com> From: underway@comcast.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:57:45 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20040109.075201.81090753.imp@bsdimp.com> (M. Warner Losh's message of "Fri, 09 Jan 2004 07:52:01 -0700 (MST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is FreeBSD going? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:59:36 -0000 "M. Warner Losh" writes: > Whatever. I've consulted lawyers on this who assure me that it is > legal. You've admitted to not knowing US Copyright law and are aguing > emotion, which is why I didn't reply to the rest of your message. You obviously don't want to discuss this, and it's easy to guess the real reasons. Your main problem here, and apparently that of your lawyers, is that you don't understand what the issues are to which copyright law is to be applied. The legality of collective copyrights was not my issue. Your other problem is putting words in people's mouth; I would never admit to know not knowing US copyright law because I know it quite well enough to argue FreeBSD's IP issues with anybody. If I don't write with the same seeming authority as you, that's more your problem than mine. I expected my comments to be ignored or brushed off, but I didn't expect to be brushed off in your rude and insulting manner. Maybe when I've recovered, and if I haven't made my move to NetBSD yet, I'll write up a more complete explanation of FreeBSD's IP problems instead of trying to deal with the likes of you in a conversation. We can all be glad that it hasn't mattered and might never matter that the FreeBSD IP situation is so shabby, I suppose because it sends the message that it's all essentially a Gentlemen's Agreement, with only a few violators who are more-or-less tolerated.