From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 17 6:56:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4002237B401 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 06:56:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from clunix.cl.msu.edu (clunix.cl.msu.edu [35.9.2.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9111F43EB2 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 06:56:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by clunix.cl.msu.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gBHEuMs20110; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:56:22 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister Message-Id: <200212171456.gBHEuMs20110@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Subject: Re: Dual booting FreeBSD 4.7 and Windows XP To: judmarc@fastmail.fm (Jud) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:56:22 -0500 (EST) Cc: jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu (Jerry McAllister), mikemcg@ucla.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20021216214817.34c3e30e.judmarc@fastmail.fm> from "Jud" at Dec 16, 2002 09:48:17 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:52:02 -0500 (EST) > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > [snip] > > If it finds a bootable slice that it > > doesn't recognize, it just calls it '???' (but still knows how to > > load its boot sector and pass off control. For slices on disks that > > don't look bootable, it just ignores these and doesn't even list them > > in the menu. > > Strictly speaking, the ??? isn't because the bootloader doesn't > "recognize" the slice, but that the filesystem it does recognize on that > slice has more than one name and might belong to one of several > operating systems. In the case of NT/W2K/XP, the filesystem is called > NTFS by MS, HPFS by OS/2, and I believe QNX may use it as well. Some > sort of user-configurable name might be built in to the FreeBSD > bootloader, but AIUI that would be difficult to do within its extremely > small size. Grub and other bootloaders do this by means of user config > files and other pieces that live outside the bootloader itself, and so > don't have the size limitation. Yah, I shaved some stuff and lumped things together rather than making it even longer and less comprehensible to the already confused person. Besides, it was beginning to get beyond the details I am totally clear about. I wish we could abandon MS (and MS oriented BOIS) and make a clean start on bootup, memory use, disk addressing, etc. ////jerry > > Jud > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message