From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 26 11:54:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB03C106566B; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BDD8FC1C; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id NAA27185; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:54:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4F213EE7.2090207@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:54:15 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20120111 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton References: <201201251836.q0PIa1sl037892@svn.freebsd.org> <4F205673.30907@FreeBSD.org> <4F206B8B.30207@FreeBSD.org> <4F2075AF.2030900@FreeBSD.org> <4F212F7F.3050301@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4F212F7F.3050301@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r230545 - head/sys/boot/forth X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:54:18 -0000 on 26/01/2012 12:48 Doug Barton said the following: > On 01/25/2012 13:35, Andriy Gapon wrote: >> on 25/01/2012 22:52 Doug Barton said the following: >>> On 01/25/2012 11:22, Andriy Gapon wrote: >>>> I have this crazy idea that we should remove the 'Safe Boot' and "ACPI' options >>>> from the default boot menu (on platforms where they are present). >>> >>> IMO better labels on the menu would be a better option here. The ACPI >>> option in particular is important for some users who have broken ACPI. >> >> Well, from my experience, nowadays it's a 99% chance that a PC simply won't work >> at all without ACPI. However broken it might be. >> Not sure if better labels can be of any help with that :-) > > I'm not sure that removing an option that some of our users still need > is a good idea. I don't imagine that any users have to change things via loader menu each time they boot. loader.conf will still be there. > But I'm not in charge of anything. :) That's OK. >>>> Besides, 'Safe Boot' seems to be already somewhat undermined by rc.d/kld. >>> >>> If there is a way to signal that down to userspace I'm happy to modify >>> the behavior of the script. >> >> Maybe this gets propagated via kenv. > > Sorry I wasn't clear. If you (or someone else) can show me how to > definitively determine, at the time that rc.d/kld is run, whether the > user chose the "Safe Boot" option I'm happy to change the behavior of > the script accordingly. Boot with and without the option and compare kenv output? >> In this case changing a label to something like "Enable loading of configured >> kernel modules" could be an improvement. > > Not sure what you meant there, sorry. That's OK. -- Andriy Gapon