From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 28 02:30:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291AE106566B for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:30:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nomadlogic@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yw0-f178.google.com (mail-yw0-f178.google.com [209.85.211.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A578FC19 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywh8 with SMTP id 8so318908ywh.3 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:30:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9zVjk66J4pq2bjKh7CNTcPcz8/KSVHlfijFlTIvwS4s=; b=MZfkM9Poc4pdbCyX4JLrx2fErUHo7L3n4OqlYknMg37Q4E8HOM+0etnuLU/bYKKQGx UcGDg3QV9FoQwP6z/JVPh1ipqU45mJ0D70/R/bYU+BajxdaA4Mn4nrLHcNYQmvxAEYFl NScvzFt0NPccPW48pxRfdhLlM6uVYegH4PLGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MulvVgnSC8QcJCYmIX4SfDXjbK6BxjM+hV9KbY1hH5gdspiTSY10V8VkyK7fBQkaqX jcilDvWC95qIZDE2lZV1yM6cbS+CbjV4HO+NRXdxN0sflcIJmcKK2QOZOYkEYVC+UHx+ gjeDvAPdtPuCmuDS5rd5nUoSgPPR6U6a4oi1Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.251.27 with SMTP id y27mr27989983ybh.227.1256697031164; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:30:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20091028021417.GA93608@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4AE5F897.3000103@rawbw.com> <200910271703.12828.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20091027213134.GA85815@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <200910272046.00289.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20091028021417.GA93608@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:30:31 -0700 Message-ID: <57d710000910271930u79b618f6m2bae6cf5c3c8fa83@mail.gmail.com> From: pete wright To: Frank Shute , Gonzalo Nemmi , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:30:32 -0000 On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:45:59PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >> >> On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:31:34 pm Jerry McAllister wrote: >> > [snippage] >> >> > So, that leaves personal preference as the only real reason >> > for wanting to replace it. >> >> Let me get this straight .. that means that =A0every Linux distro, NetBS= D, >> OpenBSD and DragonFlyBSD are all doing it just out of personal >> preference? >> > > I'll speculate as to the reasons: > > NetBSD: probably wanted something smaller footprint-wise. > > OpenBSD: wanted something more secure. > > Dragonfly: started afresh, so could replace it without many headaches. > > RedHat: poor package management made it a pain to upgrade. > > FreeBSD: ? > > I can't think of a good reason why FreeBSD should get rid of it. > > Saying that, it would be neat if it was taken out of base and replaced > with something minimal that could cope with the demands of cron and > not much else. Then the user is expected to install a MTA of their > choice out of ports. > > That would mean less code in base and fewer security advisories. > yea i like where you are going with this frank - perhaps when opensmtpd is done we'll be in the position to import this into the freebsd tree? it sounds like it might fit the bill :) -pete --=20 pete wright www.nycbug.org