From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jan 29 19:21:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA15007 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:21:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcia.com (root@mcia.com [205.182.55.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14989; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ts1p36.mcia.com (ts1p4.mcia.com [205.182.55.133]) by mcia.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA17560; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 21:17:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <32F02F96.18D1@mcia.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 21:20:22 -0800 From: CBTravenss Reply-To: cbt@mcia.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ben@narcissus.ml.org CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Snob Art Genre wrote: > > We, the volunteer readers of freebsd-questions, got your message... > > I have no idea who owlsnest.com is, but if they are spammers then I wish > them nothing good. > > I gather from your mail header that you're still using 16-bit Windows. > No wonder you're cranky, I would be too if my computer were always > crashing. Your comments, while interesting, are, I believe, misguided and not constructive. If I'm the only individual who thinks the Owl's Eye Productions maintainers are misleading the public and using FreeBSD to help them do that, then it would be somewhat surprising and unfortunate, but I'll likely be able to live with that. The facts are as follows: An organization called Owl's Eye Productions, Inc. maintains a one-page Web site at http://www.owlsnest.com on which three items are presented. The name of the organization, a sham (i.e. non-existent) email address mailto link, webmaster@owlsnest.com" and a bright graphic in the center of the page promoting and linking to FreeBSD. No other links or contact information is offered. Owls' Eye Productions has sent untold numbers of unsolicited emails offering a URL placement service and has crossed far over the line, in my view, by stating that by replying to the email (return address: owlseye@owlsnest.com) the respondant is authorizing Owl's Eye Productions to begin the placement service and charge a fee. It's not standard "spam". I thought it might be of value for individuals who have an interest in FreeBSD to know that their interests are being associated with the less than ethical practices of Owl's Eye Productions and hoped that they might welcome having the opportunity to decide what they would like to do about it, if anything. I cannot understand why you would wish to berate me for merely providing the information about it. My computer does not crash, nor does my awareness that retaliation might be a consequence when communicating with the sort of people who send unsolicited email messages with unethical schemes and traps in them. My preference to remain as anonymous as possible to notify them and interested parties at FreeBSD, will, I hope, be viewed by objective and thoughtful individuals as reasonable and not unethical in any way. The statements I have made can be independently verified and I have no wish to convince anyone to send me money or to do anything at all except consider what is in their own best interests. There is no need to reply to me. If you like, have a look at www.owlsnest.com, try to send an email using the mailto link on the page, or if you want to risk being thought to have authorized them to perform fee-based services for you, send them an email at owlseye@owlsnest.com. If you think others who receive their umail might unfairly associate them with FreeBSD, then you can contact the developers or distributors of FreeBSD, if you like. My contribution time now has been expended. Thanks, CBT