From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 10 5:49:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.cybersurf.net (smtp2.cybersurf.net [209.197.145.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B8837B423 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 05:49:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 01031149@3web.net) Received: from [209.197.154.228] ([209.197.154.228]) by smtp2.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GBKU9Z00.DY5 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 06:49:11 -0600 Received: by mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 10 Apr 2001 06:48:01 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 06:47:59 -0600 From: Duke Normandin <01031149@3web.net> To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSDi Acquired by Embedded Computing Firm Wind River Message-ID: <20010410064758.A206595@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca> Mail-Followup-To: Ted Mittelstaedt , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010409163545.B72259@mandy.rockingd.calgary.ab.ca> <000001c0c189$28163c00$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000001c0c189$28163c00$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>; from "Ted Mittelstaedt" on Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 11:40:39PM Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 11:40:39PM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >The questions I asked were not meant to denegrate FreeBSD, the > >developers, or their valiant efforts. I may have issues with some aspects > >of FreeBSD, but my respect for the whole ball of wax has never waned. I'm > >still in the throes of learning my way around Unix. I haven't yet made a > >decision between a flavor of Linux or an incarnation of BSD. This > >discussion has been enlightening and informative, but I think that it > >would serve no further good to continue publically. Please email me > >privately with any further comments/suggestions. > > Sorry, Duke, I don't operate this way - I've learned never to say things > privately through e-mail and other trackable communication that I wouldn't > say publically. > > I understand where your coming from though, and it's a more common "newbie" > issue than a lot of old-timers understand, espically folks that got into > FreeBSD from the commercial UNIX side, rather than the Windows side. This > is why I'm spending time on this thread. It's my guess that this discussion may have gone a long way to clear the air about a lot of issues. This was one of the reasons why I jumped into this thread and asked questions. I've read too many pat answers in the past that did nothing more than confuse the issue on these matters, IMO. As I stated in another post to this thread, I installed 3.3R on a 486DX2-66 1.5 yrs ago and have had fun playing and learning. I personally have not had a "garbage component" issue. I must have lucked in. ;) Although I may not agree with some details of your interpretation of the issues, I do agree with the overall message that you were trying to convey. This is exactly what I was trying to draw out from this discussion, and I've learned a lot along the way. It's my hope that the BSD "newbie" community and potential BSD converts now have a better understanding of the issues involved in making the transition to Unix. Believe it or not, I went through something very similar helping folks making the transition from being hardware/bait fishermen to the fine art of fly-fishing. My first sentence was: Folks...gone are the days of the $5 K-Mart junk rods. OTOH, it was impressed upom them that they certainly didn't need a $1000+ bamboo flyrod to have one hell of a good time - or catch supper ;) Thanks for your input! -- -duke Calgary, Alberta, Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message