From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 11 19:34:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2314616A415 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:34:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arne_woerner@yahoo.com) Received: from web30310.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30310.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.69.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A379043DA2 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:33:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arne_woerner@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 36401 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Nov 2006 19:33:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=MBWYvU7hjyN7rj3yPbQLFBo4dT+clt2Laupqknzq0/YKllFobY/Ovt5NAO7i5zXnGze+b0yjrqV/UAnC1zCf+a/vsRFqJY550gcS3dL82GUHl3IY+NMKLxQBacYZK09/TifuVrjpV6q392dSMbf54i5SQQ5m3tW6zWFagLWw3MA=; X-YMail-OSG: Xzldeu0VM1kTmVZoZd1jxTdpMz0oJfddtRyUXkynWPSemBlzDll9PA9z19mQ2JaK.1DvXV_WsgdjmB4_InFsJ1ccayWobPzbJ.rrPC_EG0Gk1PefdJGt4RzIl4hmWpE0jDSeRD5h.0rD1Hs- Received: from [213.54.145.48] by web30310.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:33:56 PST Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:33:56 -0800 (PST) From: "R. B. Riddick" To: Dan Lukes , freebsd-security@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <45562245.8070804@obluda.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <159176.35953.qm@web30310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: src/etc/rc.firewall simple ${fw_pass} tcp from any to any established X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:34:30 -0000 --- Dan Lukes wrote: > Statefull rules can stop the sophisticated intruder, but are often more > vulnerable to DoS attacks. > > Every method has pros and cons ... > Hmm... U mean, when someone creates a lot of states? At least pf can limit that... But here it looks like just the good guys can create a state (from the good-network via the public network to the trusted web sites), so that states can't hurt, I think... -Arne ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com