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In fact, in 1999 Linux = was >> inestimably harder to use for a desktop than FreeBSD. >=20 > Nice to hear, personally I'm unable to setup bluetooth (every = hcccontrol request end in a timeout) nor I'm unable to use two finger = scroll on my touchpad which literally work out of the box on Linux. >=20 > I've used FreeBSD on my laptop a while back, it was a better = experience. Using on a simple workstation is quite convenient though. = But on laptop, it's huge nightmare (not mentioning ACPI). It=E2=80=99s yet another thread that compares FreeBSD against Linux, and = does mention =E2=80=9CACPI=E2=80=9D without any related information, so = I simply *have* to ask =E2=80=94 ACPI what?=