From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Tue Aug 18 00:02:12 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3CD3BF321 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 00:02:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from midget.dons.net.au (midget.dons.net.au [IPv6:2403:5800:5101:0:ea:1cff:fefa:f00]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "dons.net.au", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BVrgj4ly1z4Qvx for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 00:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from midget.dons.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 07I01jhF039785 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 09:31:51 +0930 (ACST) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by midget.dons.net.au (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 07I01QGK039760 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 09:31:26 +0930 (ACST) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) X-MIMEDefang-Relay-be813b1f1da6d6b27d681222cb70cc4f5b642383: 2403:5800:5101:0:e935:a6e:74c3:1cbe Received: from [IPv6:2403:5800:5101:0:e935:a6e:74c3:1cbe] ([IPv6:2403:5800:5101:0:e935:a6e:74c3:1cbe] [2403:5800:5101:0:e935:a6e:74c3:1cbe]) by midget.dons.net.au (envelope-sender ) (MIMEDefang) with ESMTP id 07I01LB9039753; Tue, 18 Aug 2020 09:31:26 +0930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.1\)) Subject: Re: Recognizing Matrix as an official channel From: "O'Connor, Daniel" In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 09:31:21 +0930 Cc: Farhan Khan , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2C92B63D-1E05-46EE-A02C-49032C6E9CC1@dons.net.au> References: <0220573d-7844-4c0f-9cff-56c2a6f91500@www.fastmail.com> To: Eugene Grosbein X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.1) X-Spam-Score: -1 () No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.83 on 10.0.2.1 ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1597708932; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:dkim-signature; bh=0mVOgrvYOxK+DsRopkQq/WfvaKmjojpKiWkR11ortdo=; b=Q7LMvbQRmpS+z4WDgN6LeWWEdfJlTeDBZaJm5tS/7A5EZQytsvkW+DRitDsjk75x6a+AAB FjhUWpXXvCM7Bz7CYbhYNg1FC+zgT72QjNTv5Kidlsy3CNrxeay6JF7r/f8VHE0peVKvk1 HXJPHmqyV6SE1YCFvl+GrqatN75ikCEiF0uY1OsEQkpj9Ajf7lL7sNb2emZtTjrf36tRLZ 1jfXzZSXAC2FZ5DVjiqq6AFvn+Vose4EXml9j8limbiJCJbWgwaP5uSQyL7NFkg31/glaV 4+v3bo5ft60D3llJS0NKoYFBNuhr/1BzOUEjiA2bHJthR9GJ3slJTtAGtKHR9A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1597708932; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=wJZs8/Nr41T8z8QZG5VqC89ko6tPgg4/tOydOQDQDarFpUOtub7G9hNl72oDJNj9XxHXtE QMqHMIowzcJyjs8k3056bYUssPyTtYpl1qfhDneIL8QRZpy92tRUsARVwYyA43P4uxHh2O 07k40mrCSe7NJHnIeO8DyOiLCYut84ICjCuBA/mysmNSTYPUA3ktX6yXVpQ2hCk/qWaNBH D7+wL0BNAetA/v+MVDOezLNgBdyJusOcHyqTpHWVR++5suKTGjU610m9QblpIgEE+dubYI /ETs44WwJyDe5bANVfNyaIds20mChdKgqLc46o1QAWnY1uTde/fAcCbr48FJ6Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=dons.net.au header.s=default header.b=Su3SHo7l; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of darius@dons.net.au designates 2403:5800:5101:0:ea:1cff:fefa:f00 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=darius@dons.net.au X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BVrgj4ly1z4Qvx X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.40 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.995]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dons.net.au:s=default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; ARC_SIGNED(0.00)[i=1]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.01)[-1.008]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dons.net.au:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dons.net.au,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.90)[-0.900]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:4764, ipnet:2403:5800:5000::/36, country:AU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 00:02:12 -0000 > On 18 Aug 2020, at 05:50, Eugene Grosbein wrote: >=20 > 17.08.2020 21:36, Farhan Khan wrote: >>=20 >> I am a long-time IRC user. I see that FreeBSD recognizes the EFnet = and FreeNode channels as official, as listed here: = https://wiki.freebsd.org/IRC/Channels. While it continues to serve the = community, there are major limitations and I feel that it might be time = to migrate towards a replacement. >>=20 >> The "market" of communication going forward is clearly shifting = towards more feature-ful protocols, such as Slack, Discord or Gitter. = The only open-source and viable option in this class systems that I see = Matrix. There is an active FreeBSD channel located at = #FreeBSD:matrix.org, along with a few other BSD-related channels. >>=20 >> I propose making this an officially recognized channel for FreeBSD = communication and encouraging migration from IRC to Matrix. >=20 > What is Matrix's level of support for FreeBSD? > Is there native FreeBSD client? > Is there native FreeBSD server? The server is in ports - net/py-matrix-synapse A client is available also - net-im/nheko I've only run the server on FreeBSD but it worked well enough. -- Daniel O'Connor "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum