From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 15 5: 6:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D3737B401 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1C843E3B for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:06:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@starjuice.net) Received: from sheldonh by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local (Exim 4.10) id 18CgAq-0004KI-00; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 15:06:16 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 15:06:16 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Vallo Kallaste Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /dev/acd*t* no longer available in -current? Message-ID: <20021115130616.GF14925@starjuice.net> Mail-Followup-To: Vallo Kallaste , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20021115084430.GI76728@starjuice.net> <200211150848.gAF8muEU060773@spider.deepcore.dk> <20021115122950.GA16194@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20021115124545.GA2174@tiiu.internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021115124545.GA2174@tiiu.internal> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *18CgAq-0004KI-00*C/fVe8Kr5wU* Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On (2002/11/15 14:45), Vallo Kallaste wrote: > Yes. For what it's worth, I think that system should be airtight out > of the box and the consequences for average desktop user (as I am) > clearly documented in handbook. Users who will not read the fine > documentation fully deserve the pain. Well, in the case of being able to write to the CDRW, that's only true because sysinstall doesn't ask you whether this is a multiuser or single-user machine. One day, when sysinstall makes that distinction, it can add more permissive rules to the file that devfs(8) reads on startup if the operator indicates that the installation is for a single-user workstation. By then, I'm sure we'll be running devfs(8) on startup. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message