From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Nov 22 19: 2:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCF037B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:02:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from catflap.bishopston.net (mailhost1.bishopston.net [24.87.68.243]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E35843E3B for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 19:02:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jamie@dyslexicfish.com) X-Envelope-From: X-Envelope-To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from catflap.bishopston.net (jamie@localhost [IPv6:::1]) by catflap.bishopston.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id gAN32XBO088899; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 03:02:33 GMT (envelope-from jamie@catflap.bishopston.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by catflap.bishopston.net (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) id gAN32XJf088882; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 03:02:33 GMT (envelope-from jamie) Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 03:02:33 GMT From: Jamie Jones Message-Id: <200211230302.gAN32XJf088882@catflap.bishopston.net> To: anthony@freebie.atkielski.com, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on the desktop (was: TheRegister article on Hotmail) In-Reply-To: <014201c29296$f9cc4a20$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'd hardly expect to hear anything different on a FreeBSD advocacy list. > There are lots of people at Microsoft who say _exactly_ the same thing about > UNIX as a server ("it would take me several times as long to get things done > if I had to use UNIX" or "UNIX is a toy compared to Windows 2000"). That doesn't necesarrily necesarily make the comments any less valid. "people at microsoft" are paid to work there. "people on freebsd-advocacy" are there because of their experience with FreeBSD > Part of rational advocacy is recognizing the strengths AND the weaknesses of > one's favored OS. Yes, of course. And, I didn't say that FreeBSD on the desktop is for everyone. I know some people who I'd never recommend anything other than windows at the moment (people who tweak with downloading some stuff but have no real technical knowledge) Also, people like my dad who know EVEN LESS I recommend FreeBSD - that I set up - he gets his email, reads web sites, and doesn't keep accidently deleting icons and screwing things up, requiring my help, like he did with win98 ! > UNIX is a usually a poor choice for the desktop, and > Windows is often a poor choice for a server. It's important for objective > parties to remain wary of anyone who claims that a single operating system > can do everything better than any other OS. But in the post I responded to, you didn't use "usually" - and whilst I may still debate "usually", it's not as cut and dry as when you wrote: | Conversely, though, converting from Windows to UNIX on the desktop is just | as absurd as doing the opposite on the server, and the fact that many people Such an extreme statement is not "rational advocacy" in my opinion. Cheers, Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message