Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:20:48 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> To: Freddie Cash <fjwcash@gmail.com> Cc: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@ixsystems.com>, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>, "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: rcs Message-ID: <52546920.8090600@mu.org> In-Reply-To: <CAOjFWZ4heSgKLr0VHHKnohajt0qFg%2BSL4k2n4JqTUCuRuTXieA@mail.gmail.com> References: <77307DF8-637D-4295-BF47-8742F1552CE8@orthanc.ca> <20131008031517.GA31864@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <60177810-8DC4-4EA3-8040-A834B79039D2@orthanc.ca> <52538EDC.2080001@freebsd.org> <52541202.3010707@mu.org> <CAOjFWZ4heSgKLr0VHHKnohajt0qFg%2BSL4k2n4JqTUCuRuTXieA@mail.gmail.com>
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oops, sent from my non-subscribed email.. On 10/8/13 11:17 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org > <mailto:bright@mu.org>>wrote: > > On 10/7/13 9:49 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > > On 10/8/13 11:19 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > On 2013-10-07, at 8:15 PM, Steve Kargl > <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu > <mailto:sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>> wrote: > > Maybe there was no development for 15 years. However, > the 7364 > lines in ChangeLog after 2010-02-04 suggests that > there may > be few bugs to worry about. > > > I think the fact is that most direct users of RCS use it in a > very simple way, and > it works just fine for that. with no real need for any > updates or any change. > > > With all due respect Julian, The more we discuss this more this > really points to the problem that FreeBSD appears to be a > challenge to install packages into such that a package moving out > of base is such a big deal. > > Can we fix that instead? > > I mean, this change should really not be a big deal, but yet it is > and this speaks to the core of FreeBSD utility. > > So again, is there a way to make it so adding RCS after install is > not a big deal at all? > > > I haven't kept up-to-date with all the developments, but isn't this > part of the bsdinstall/pkgng plan? Once the pkgng repos are all > available and populated, then bsdinstall will be able to install > packages from there during the install. And, isn't that part of the > plan for the DVD installers, to include an "installer repo" for > off-line installs? > > IOW, theoretically, one could just download the 10.0 DVD, boot, > install the base, browse the repo on the DVD, select items to install, > install, reboot, and be finished. Without ever needing to touch an > Internet connection until after rebooting into FreeBSD, if it's even > needed at all. > > Or was that one of the "pie-in-the-sky" ideas that hasn't materialised > yet? > I thought sysinstall could do this 13 years ago? -Alfred
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