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Date:      Sat, 20 Dec 1997 23:33:51 -0800
From:      John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@efn.org>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: converting drivers to dynamic memory...
Message-ID:  <19971220233351.10621@hydrogen.nike.efn.org>
In-Reply-To: <199712210240.NAA01912@word.smith.net.au>; from Mike Smith on Sun, Dec 21, 1997 at 01:10:12PM %2B1030
References:  <19971218063606.31535@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199712210240.NAA01912@word.smith.net.au>

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Mike Smith scribbled this message on Dec 21:

[...]

my point was that this "framework" that you said was debunking my changes
ISN'T complete and working, even though you said it was... I will be
needing it in a couple months...

> > > There will be no major/minor numbers soon.
> > 
> > so, how long till this happens??  is this going to be completed in the
> > next few months?
> 
> This is entirely contingent on the acceptance of devfs as "the way to 
> go", and the encompassing of the various prerequisite tasks (such as 
> persistence and fixing buggy devfs support in drivers).

so, until that happens, can I procede with phase one (that Darren Reed
was so nice to name :) )...  almost ALL of that work will be able to
easily translate once devfs is complete..

> > the reason I ask is that once the bus/device code is writen, I'm going
> > to have to pretty much rewrite ALL of the device drivers for the new
> > scheme, and I don't want to do more than I have to... changing how a
> > function is called is a LOT more work than just changing the internals
> > of a function...
> 
> I think that devfs will be a goer for 3.0.  I don't know what sort of 
> timetable you're on for your bus restructuring, but I suspect you may 
> be looking at 3.1 for that.

I'm hoping for having the bus/device code completely written and
functional with in the next two months...  of course, after the bus/device
code is done, it will require massive changes to the device drivers...
I've thought about this, and it's probably best to have both in the
tree at the same time, and just move device drivers over...  else we
would need a complete device driver freeze, which I'm sure no one
wants...  (the more people that would help would make a freeze that
much shorter)..

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