From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 15 22:11:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5FB1065675 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Received: from proxy.meer.net (proxy.meer.net [64.13.141.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D5B8FC1A for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Received: from mail.meer.net (mail.meer.net [64.13.141.3]) by proxy.meer.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0FMB1H8002216; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:11:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Received: from mail2.meer.net (mail2.meer.net [64.13.141.16]) by mail.meer.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/meer) with ESMTP id n0FMAo1G095324; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:10:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Received: from gnnmac.hudson-trading.com (209.249.190.8.available.above.net [209.249.190.8] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mail2.meer.net (8.14.1/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0FM9pqR086078 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:10:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnn@neville-neil.com) Message-Id: <015E07DD-D73E-4F5C-98F7-01EBFF1D18CA@neville-neil.com> From: George Neville-Neil To: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" In-Reply-To: <1232056523.96305.11.camel@RabbitsDen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:10:49 -0500 References: <111DA6F0-24FF-417C-B37B-25780F7ECFF6@neville-neil.com> <1231952766.1172.31.camel@RabbitsDen> <1231957141.1172.55.camel@RabbitsDen> <1231988689.1064.8.camel@RabbitsDen> <72FDBFF6-7BCF-4BBB-8AE8-1D8C6EBA6D89@neville-neil.com> <1232056523.96305.11.camel@RabbitsDen> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Canit-CHI2: 0.50 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.5 (Score 0, tokens from: ) X-Spam-Score: 0.00 () [Tag at 5.00] X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Canit-Stats-ID: 3033178 - 8ba356726a18 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 64.13.141.13 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X60 overheating with 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:11:04 -0000 On Jan 15, 2009, at 16:55 , Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko wrote: > On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 10:02 -0500, George Neville-Neil wrote: >> Replying to myself again. >> >> With the settings I discussed I got thermal shutdowns doing make -j 4 >> buildworld >> after about 10 minutes each time. I am going to swap the tz0 and tz1 >> temperatures >> and try again. Since tz1 is more sensitive (the CRT is 97) it makes >> more sense >> to be more aggressive cooling it than tz0 which has a CRT of 128. > ISTR that tz0 is some kind of a sham on X60 or, at least, on 1709-73U > that I own. It does not implement _PSV, _PSL, _TC1, _TC2 or _TSP and > is > useless from passive cooling standpoint. Its _TMP method returns 128C > under some conditions _regardless of measured temperature_. Did you > actually see any attempts at passive cooling when you overrode _PSV in > tz0? I kept overriding both, so not really sure. I am attempting to update the box because I want to know if this was a failed set of modules (7.1 and 8.0). Best, George