From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jan 2 1:19:46 2001 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 2 01:19:43 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moon.harmonic.co.il (moon.harmonic.co.il [192.116.140.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DA037B400 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 01:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by moon.harmonic.co.il (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30440; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 11:18:00 +0200 To: Greg Lehey Subject: Re: vinum malfunction! Message-ID: <978427080.3a519cc850a45@webmail.harmonic.co.il> Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 11:18:00 +0200 (IST) From: Roman Shterenzon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001231101426.K99806@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010102092819.K44043@wantadilla.lemis.com> <978425185.3a519561dbcdb@webmail.harmonic.co.il> <20010102193241.C40453@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20010102193241.C40453@wantadilla.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Greg Lehey : > >> 2. The backtrace still does not include Vinum symbols, making it > >> pretty useless. > > > > To the very least it's not true. > > Please check again http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22103 > > There's one there which is missing symbols. In a total of 30 printed > pages of mainly irrelevant text, I might have missed something. > > >> 3. It includes (without comment) a mail exchange with Andy Newman, > >> which have been twice mutilated, once before I received the > >> message, once after. > > > > This is completely irrelevant. > > Precisely. Please don't include irrelevant information. > > >> Dealing with this kind of PR is an absolute pain. It's bloated, > >> illegible, full of irrelevant information and lacking the information > >> I need. It is, however, one of the few cases I've seen of a > > > > ..or any other reason that prevents you from working on it. > > Sorry, what are you trying to say? > > > vinum RAID-5 is dangerous, shouldn't be used in sensitive > > environments, and it cost me much health. > > This kind of blanket statement detracts from anything useful you might > have to say. > > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the > original text. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > To sum it up: 1) This argument is becoming ugly. 2) The fact is, I did my best, and _DID_ provide you with _ALL_ needed information. (among with some useless and some mutilated text). 3) I was trying to say that saying "too much text doesn't allow me to work on it" is an EXCUSE. The PR had the needed information and it wasn't mutilated. Perhaps you think that this bug seldom occures, or, perhaps you have some other reason. 4) RAID-5 cost our company enormous down-time and cost me personally my health. This is why I think it's dangerous and I want to warn others until this bug is fixed. 5) I'm using webmail, thus I'm unable to control the format of the sent mail. Sorry. 6) If it's so hard to you to dig valuable information from PR 22103, I can do it by myself and resubmit it. Will this make any difference? 7) I appreciate your work. --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message