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Date:      Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:39:05 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Archie Cobbs <archie@whistle.com>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: sysctl MIB and kernel internals
Message-ID:  <200009232039.NAA06894@bubba.whistle.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1000915120346.45037J-100000@fledge.watson.org> "from Robert Watson at Sep 15, 2000 12:26:56 pm"

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Robert Watson writes:
> I'd like to see us consider moving to an alternative model, divorcing the
> implementation internals of various kernel objects (processes, et al) from
> the MIB interface retrieving management data about them.  I.e., struct
> proc would continue to be used in kernel, but relevant fields would be
> copied to struct export_proc for export via sysctl.  In addition, it would
> be worth prefixing these exported structures with a version number
> allowing the caller to determine if they support an appropriate version of
> the interface, allowing a more comprehensible error.  Only fields
> desirable to export would be in export_proc, so if an extra pointer is
> added to struct ucred (recent resource control changes, capabilities), an
> extra pointer to struct proc (jail), etc won't needless break userland
> tools.

One semi-remote possibility would be to use the netgraph/ng_parse.h
library to convert all binary structures into ASCII form (and only
the relevant fields). ng_parse is basically a C structure <-> ASCII
translation library.

-Archie

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