From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG  Fri Jan 27 08:55:02 2006
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG>
X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org
Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD17716A420
	for <current@freebsd.org>; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:55:02 +0000 (GMT)
	(envelope-from rizzo@icir.org)
Received: from xorpc.icir.org (xorpc.icir.org [192.150.187.68])
	by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF4B43D46
	for <current@freebsd.org>; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:55:02 +0000 (GMT)
	(envelope-from rizzo@icir.org)
Received: from xorpc.icir.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by xorpc.icir.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0R8t0BC038854;
	Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:55:00 -0800 (PST)
	(envelope-from rizzo@xorpc.icir.org)
Received: (from rizzo@localhost)
	by xorpc.icir.org (8.12.11/8.12.3/Submit) id k0R8t0YQ038853;
	Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:55:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:55:00 -0800
From: Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@icir.org>
To: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Message-ID: <20060127005500.A38764@xorpc.icir.org>
References: <20060124075437.B67285@xorpc.icir.org>
	<20060126.210322.56187611.imp@bsdimp.com>
	<20060126225244.B37507@xorpc.icir.org>
	<20060127.003927.08393947.imp@bsdimp.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i
In-Reply-To: <20060127.003927.08393947.imp@bsdimp.com>;
	from imp@bsdimp.com on Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 12:39:27AM -0700
Cc: current@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: if_flags usage etc.
X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current
	<freebsd-current.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current>, 
	<mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current>,
	<mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:55:03 -0000

On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 12:39:27AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
...
> Actually, the ifmedia approach has a cleaner way of dealing.  mii uses
> ifmedia.  ifmedia reports all the possible media types to ifconfig,
> and then reports its status.  mii has a nearly identical way of
> doing this for devices with mii busses, or pseudo mii busses.
> 
> ed should likely be fully converted to using ifmedia, but I'm not sure
> I want to risk breaking ISA cards that I don't have access to to make
> it so.  I just don't have the time...

to tell the truth, -current is so heavyweight for obsolete
hardware that i wonder what is the point of trying to support
old hardware that nobody has anymore, or on which nobody
would upgrade the OS from 4.x to 7.x

Not that i have plans to revise the 'ed' driver' but if
someone has such plans, this shouldn't be a concern
that stops us.

	cheers
	luigi