From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 28 06:32:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603DFF7D for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33738FC13 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [217.12.10.89] by nm5.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2012 06:31:53 -0000 Received: from [77.238.184.58] by tm19.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2012 06:31:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp127.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Nov 2012 06:31:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1354084313; bh=yVMwVyLYuINLjkF2hN/m87tSCyV4W2Xe5fcSq8Jtxe4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zZuqojk8hyJSyd2wsDhzBmbjJat88zjqL3MyuwnPOtdFDtbZWfaXnT8ijALsZO3elSsZ/UuFhnxNVt8q578547qyyl/V/PF5UCJD+/pPdEYQ7cw0w2xXWmCb24ZJsqObGF6x5V8FLeuzGTgXtkGCE7R/GCVW9aF1vIGMiryIuMc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 162704.93252.bm@smtp127.mail.ukl.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: vgDtTmkVM1nXe_xtVojDY5h9vPLIhNb38ne2PndxeOPLtbb elZjtUB.NmJcC27598wGcrWHFKhZQgP9DAvqaH3eNnABwVuORSPTUBNJ2N2o k7KqiWWrDmtwpoUH9jEXxWNrw.jNXb7jNvLyuej7posNEUOkcrK1mBzJnUpV GoPtKvvIwNmWAkwAznyTj2asPlKNmcpUHCwRnSDiMlAZzsqYGoRweXaRzWMp 9WoKN6gO4SS6hEHO6RdrUNYkAnpPjixqvfylEt3SmxaIzlBEJG226F_aXDRd 28wDEQOUNMSuXAEOh1i3b4IRqbDYr.dr0DKYmAGmPIbrZeYLU4TbZy0s1W.4 p4Q367kHjlDK1LWwELi0Is2llDr0kKWzfJ6KnVpS5qkxYKHMCbMScIlFBT1h Tp123aSg44CPOGbXo2O4dD2EqeX7bhtCQd0_UtA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Received: from [85.182.21.51] (ralf.mardorf@85.182.21.51 with login) by smtp127.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2012 06:31:53 +0000 GMT Message-ID: <1354084312.2528.74.camel@q> Subject: Re: Support for "old" hardware (was:Re: kern/148741: [sound] Headphones are deaf (do not work) on Lenovo ThinkPad X300) From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 07:31:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20121127231130.106340@gmx.com> References: <20121127231130.106340@gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.0-0ubuntu3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 06:32:00 -0000 On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 18:11 -0500, Dieter BSD wrote: > Better watch out, or the doctors will say that your body is too old to > spend their time fixing. We already live in such societies. At some point there's not enough manpower to support everything, but I agree, there are so many usages for old computers and there are still many people who continue using QL emulations and stuff like this. In the past computers were tools, nowadays most computers are toys. Promotion does awake needs of stupid people. The funny thing is that this already started in the past. A stupid teacher once said, that the C64 is a toy and PCs are real computers. Nonsense! It depends to the usage. You can use the C64 and other simple computers for serious work and you can play nutty games on the best computer hardware available. Btw. old parallel ports did support relatively good MIDI, IIRC Ac'97. Regarding to the jitter, no serious professional musician will use USB MIDI. Fortunately we've PCI, but here the problem is, that PCI will die out and for FLOSS this is an issue, because new hardware unlikely is supported. On my machine there are still two Envy24 PCI cards mounted, but my new PCIe card, a RME HDSPe AIO is only pseudo-supported, the reason for me to take a look at FreeBSD. Drivers are a serious issue or FLOSS :(. 2 Cents, Ralf