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Date:      Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:30:17 -0800 (PST)
From:      Uwe Doering <gemini@geminix.org>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: kern/59719 Re: 4.9 Stable Crashes on SuperMicro with SMP
Message-ID:  <200311290830.hAT8UHU4017332@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR kern/59719; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Uwe Doering <gemini@geminix.org>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: kern/59719 Re: 4.9 Stable Crashes on SuperMicro with SMP
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:28:06 +0100

 Jonathan Gilpin wrote:
 > I've run memtest (memtest86.com) kindly provided by Don and it passed all
 > the tests. I've installed installed a kernel module to test for memory
 > errors and found that again no memory errors are found... So this means it's
 > either a problem with the CPU's or a geniune bug in the kernel. (bugger!)
 
 No, that's unfortunately not what it means.  If a memory test fails you 
 can draw the conclusion that you have bad memory, but this doesn't work 
 the other way round.  If a memory test passes there is still a 
 possibility that a memory chip is the culprit since memory test software 
 cannot find all errors.
 
 Also, there is the chip set on the mainboard that coordinates bus access 
 etc. for the two CPUs.  Mainboard and chip set developers are known to 
 make errors, too.  In this case you would have to swap the entire 
 mainboard, possible with one from a different manufacturer.  I can tell 
 you from my own experience that it is really hard to find reliable PC 
 hardware these days, in light of ever shorter and faster product release 
 cycles.
 
     Uwe
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