From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jun 17 20:35:32 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914F933516E for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 20:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Received: from fedex2.jetcafe.org (fedex2.jetcafe.org [205.147.26.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "fedex2.jetcafe.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49nGzR4wNYz4SvP for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 20:35:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) X-Envelope-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bigus.dream-tech.com (bigus.jetcafe.org [205.147.26.7]) by fedex2.jetcafe.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 05HKZPIx002197 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 17 Jun 2020 13:35:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 13:35:25 -0700 From: Dave Hayes To: Michael Sierchio Cc: Roderick , Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Infinite stupid threads ... Message-ID: <20200617133525.4cd210d3@bigus.dream-tech.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1 ( out of 6) ALL_TRUSTED,SHORTCIRCUIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin version 3.4.4-jetcafeglobal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.83 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49nGzR4wNYz4SvP X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dave@jetcafe.org designates 205.147.26.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dave@jetcafe.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.12 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.89)[-0.888]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.982]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[jetcafe.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.05)[0.046]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7397, ipnet:205.147.0.0/18, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,edvax.de,freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 20:35:32 -0000 On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 13:02:49 -0700 Michael Sierchio wrote: > I do like the fact that sometimes troll-initiated threads get hijacked by > thoughtful discourse. This is the exact reason I like to watch threads and occasionally respond. Personally, I find the word "troll" overused and meaningless. Only the very old school know what a -real- troll is. > Any discussion of etiquette is doomed. Of course it is. Etiquette is an arbitrary subjective standard, and there exists one set of those standards for each human on the planet. Very few of these sets are exactly equivalent. Given that it appears it's humanity's nature to conflict with each other, disagreement about standards is inevitable. As an example of arbitrary etiquette, I personally find this to be less than polite: > > Perhaps I will have to unsubsribe. Consider that if someone really became fed up with the conversation, unsubscribing would be done with no word at all. There is really no reason that I can see to tell others you are unsubscribing; unless you want to attempt to coerce them into observing arbitrary standards of right posting and wrong posting ... "or you'll leave". We would all do a lot better to control ourselves rather than try to control others. It's a far more reliable methodology.:) -- Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>>> *The opinions expressed above are entirely my own* <<<< Nasrudin went into a bank with a check to cash. "Can you identify yourself?" asked the clerk. Nasrudin took out a mirror and peered into it. "Yes, that's me alright."