From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Nov 5 15:02:30 1995 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA19151 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 15:02:30 -0800 Received: from eel.dataplex.net (EEL.DATAPLEX.NET [199.183.109.245]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA19141 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 15:02:23 -0800 Received: from [199.183.109.242] (cod [199.183.109.242]) by eel.dataplex.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA02485; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 17:02:09 -0600 X-Sender: rkw@shark.dataplex.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 17:02:10 -0600 To: Julian Elischer From: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Subject: Re: More nits Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 4:04 PM 11/5/95, Julian Elischer wrote: In reply to my having written: >> Along those same lines, I would hope that the CD could contain enough of a >> framework to make it fairly easy to generate a custom kernel install >> floppy. It would be a big win if we could offer the ability to build custom >> floppies for unusual configurations (like those 4meg'ers that can't make it >> under the wire) or the atapi driver that doesn't quite make it into the >> release, but for which we might find a solution for certain machines. > >I really think the cdrom should contain a 4MB boot disk >there are several assumptions we can make that make this possible.. > >1/ 4MB machines will almost definitly be IDE/ESDI > ergo we don't need SCSI.. that's a LOT of space right there.. Agreed. Except for the possible exception of some unusual laptops, SCSI can be omitted. >2/ they are installing from cdrom or DOS.. or other non network system. > ergo we don't need network stuff Here, I take exception. There are a number of small systems that are entirely dependent on the network. The cd drive to which you speak is not on the target machine, but on another machine connected via the network. I certainly would not wish to make more that two or three floppies in order to get started. >taking those out MUST make a kernel that can boot in 4MB.. >don't tell me that it doesn't fit It doesn't fit ..... (in the schedule that is) >or it's too much work.. Sorry, but those who are making the decision have already said that it is. (And they are the ones doing the work) >if we can't fit another floppy on the cdrom there's a problem.. > >We gotta give these guys a way of installing.... I'd rather see us go back to a two floppy boot for this case. Strip the MFS out and put sysinstall on a floppy. Use that much to format the HD and then switch to it. ---- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@dataplex.net