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Date:      Wed, 29 Jul 1998 02:15:58 -0400 (EDT)
From:      ADRIAN Filipi-Martin <adrian@ubergeeks.com>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        "advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG" <advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG>, Francisco Reyes <reyesf@newsguy.com>
Subject:   Re: http://www.opensource.org/
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980728215240.472O-100000@lorax.ubergeeks.com>
In-Reply-To: <19980729110602.I716@freebie.lemis.com>

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On Wed, 29 Jul 1998, Greg Lehey wrote:

> On Tuesday, 28 July 1998 at  9:42:24 -0400, ADRIAN Filipi-Martin wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >
> >> Since writing that, I've discovered (thanks to somebody on this list)
> >> http://opensource.oreilly.com/news/resources.html.  This seems to
> >> contain exactly what we're trying to achieve.  What else do we want
> >> Eric to do than to add a link to this page?  I suppose it would be
> >> nice if O'Reilly would modify this page to unite all the operating
> >> systems under one header, but those are details.
> >
> > 	Personally, Im hoping for better accuracy, even in minimal
> > summaries.  I am sending some corrections for several sections where
> > either critical information was omitted, or the information presented is
> > just plain wrong.  .e.g. RMS didn't write his non-unix OS in '84.  May
> > have started, but it sure isn't complete yet....
> 
> Hmm.  I had expected more reaction to my suggestions.  Even what you
> say here doesn't appear to relate directly to FreeBSD.  What does the
> (currently very) silent majority think?

	Sorry, but I guess I could have included my comments to the
o'reilly webmaster.  I made a few to the BSD section as well as others. 
He took it all quite well and plans to use much my multi-page message to
make corrections next week.

	If this is the kind of open attitude they are taking to showing
who is on the field of open software, then I'll be glad to see this site
grow.  An open mind is all I ever really look for.  I tried to be fair and
point out inaccuracies int he presentation of as many areas as possible,
not just the BSD ones.

	Can't wait to see the next edition.

	Finally, in response to your question, I'd just hope to see more
info on the BSD's in general.  While it has been argued that proportional
represnetaion on the opensource site and in the press is reasonable, this
marginalizes the BSD's.  It is akin to preaching to the choir, and
pandering to the masses by giving them what they want.  If the site is
about open software technology, then it has to promote the technology
first and foremost.  If it is about open software as a model of business,
then I guess they can do that, it just won't be very interesting and will 
degenerate into a propaganda rag.

	As far as technical achievments, it more of a tit-for-tat
situation IMHO with many developments happening in all the Linux and BSD
communities.  It's not as if a larger user base indicates a larger amount
of interesting things to say about a software package.  Of course it can
be argues that they are making more news, and should get more coverage.

	Adrian
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