From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 26 05:33:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C17616A4CE; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 05:33:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9641B43D4C; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 05:33:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i7Q5X5JK051731; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:33:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Scott Long From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:45:12 MDT." <412D0868.9060203@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:33:05 +0200 Message-ID: <51730.1093498385@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk cc: Matthew Jacob cc: sos@freebsd.org cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: potential re change for 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 05:33:08 -0000 In message <412D0868.9060203@freebsd.org>, Scott Long writes: >I'm not suggesting anything different, just making a note of something >that might be desirable in the future. In a way, I see GEOM as having >the potential to be like Netgraph where it intercepts operations that it >wants to process through it's framework and lets ones that it doesn't >pass directly through without a decoupling through extra kernel threads. >But that's only one possible strategy. Introducing the concept of a >I/O scheduler that spawns KSE's to handle individual I/O requests is >another possibility. Well, the problem here is that requests which cannot be dealt with due to resource shortages should be queued at the level where they require least resources. A request queued inside a driver holds far more resources than a request in the pure bio format at the entrance to the driver for instance. And spawning KSE's in low memory situations is a recipe for suicide. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.