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Date:      Mon, 2 Jun 1997 08:26:46 +0200
From:      j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch)
To:        dgilbert@jaywon.pci.on.ca (David Gilbert)
Cc:        bugs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Problems with CCD.
Message-ID:  <19970602082646.RS47657@uriah.heep.sax.de>
In-Reply-To: <199706020426.AAA03842@repeat.pci.on.ca>; from David Gilbert on Jun 2, 1997 00:26:13 -0400
References:  <199706010545.BAA16048@repeat.pci.on.ca> <199706020333.VAA00695@pluto.plutotech.com> <199706020426.AAA03842@repeat.pci.on.ca>

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As David Gilbert wrote:

> 	Oi... Ok.  Doing that by habbit.  As a precaution, maybe newfs
> should either refuse the non-raw device or use the raw device?  I
> realize the warning was there, but I have successfully ignored that
> warning for many years.

Which was plain stupid. :) You should _never_ ignore warnings, unless
you know why you're ignoring it.  (Q: Tell me at least three reasons
why you should not use buffered devices for things like newfs, or
tar(1) to a floppy.)

This looks similar to the crashes/hangs reported by people for
accessing floppies via the buffered device, in particular in error
situations (like no floppy there at all).  I've never been able to
reproduce them.  Perhaps i should also get the wrong habit of using
the buffered devices... in the hope to see the bug some day, too.

-- 
cheers, J"org

joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE
Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)



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