From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Dec 14 00:27:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23496 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 00:27:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23466 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 00:27:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA23936; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:57:17 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id SAA86434; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:57:17 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981214185716.H17075@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:57:16 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Nadav Eiron Cc: "Jason C. Wells" , FreeBSD-chat , Ken Keeler Subject: Holy Wars (was: Smaller, Dedicated tools and Greg's Daemon News Article) References: <19981214183905.F17075@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Nadav Eiron on Mon, Dec 14, 1998 at 10:21:00AM +0200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 14 December 1998 at 10:21:00 +0200, Nadav Eiron wrote: > On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Sunday, 13 December 1998 at 23:29:40 -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote: >>> A recent email chat combined with Greg's article have completely convinced >>> me that I should learn a little bit more programming in order to make my >>> life easier. >>> >>> Emacs, Tex, >> >> Don't go overboard. Emacs, OK, but TeX might help you find positive >> things about Microsoft Wart. > > I'd say you weren't too far: I use Xemacs + LaTeX for practicaly all of my > writing (except for Hebrew, but luckily for you, that's probably not a > problem for you :-) ). I'm sure Hebrew's more of a problem for me than it is for you :-) > Especially if you write scientific stuff (which, by your .sig, I'd > suspect you are) there's nothing that beats LaTeX. At least in our > discipline (Computer Science), LaTeX is the Lingua Franca for all > scientific work. I'd say reading/writing LaTeX source code is > practicaly a requirement for being a researcher in theoretical > CS. The standard reference on it (Leslie Lamport's book) is, well, > not easy to read, but it's still worth the effort (and I heard there > are other good books for it). I used LaTeX years ago, before I gave it up for TeX. When I wrote my first book, O'Reilly asked me to write it in troff, which I did after some objections. To my astonishment, it was *much* easier. I've almost completely stopped using TeX since then. Yes, I know that you can get good results from it, but it's one of those programs that made people avoid me for hours after I used it. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message