From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 17:41:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DAAB321 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2015 17:41:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-f177.google.com (mail-pd0-f177.google.com [209.85.192.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8050814 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2015 17:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pdjy10 with SMTP id y10so58993550pdj.13 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 09:41:08 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=XjUuZjZPmZPV37iSBNWExrBSBbhz3UBJsJDUu4vi2rE=; b=bRkM+jPznrETbIW0gH+ll0ETbZnYMy69/rVt25CMExhohtS4MQgh0TnTecIQX04LRG 9gE5/7QwaRPypu7nlhc4D9aLuVIkjSC71vkeAgkC60zHTgv1BHBbkO8wEIZIe6729dSZ JAamxL2F341Wo/fOGa1NJ2l9OgAqI3PPwtD1x3miWJN8eOHLkR0TKuSPCTcDEwXwxN4W 1KWOlpqJ2OVcthohxHgSLkc/0dTr5x7VVQ1ClXuZyCJAbQ0vqFBu32pBR6f/3sOZZ+8/ gh/mEHZG3Phj4x/dVez+laaGlVx3fztENN+JQ03dYVsOlaE4S+nNuUXG2uAYsXo2SQbo U6wQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkd/A+8opqepJLPYsq1o/X/FEKH1dxnezs0PjqSLDAbVzhoL7IrflMJe/1fIBguF7ZKXF9H X-Received: by 10.66.136.17 with SMTP id pw17mr8717468pab.33.1425490868853; Wed, 04 Mar 2015 09:41:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.64.24.149] ([69.53.236.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d12sm4679592pdj.2.2015.03.04.09.41.06 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Mar 2015 09:41:07 -0800 (PST) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: r279278 failed to build (yacc: maximum table size exceeded) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2070.6\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_252DEB80-FFCC-4C8F-AC67-F2E2FFEA7A8C"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5b5 From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <95891DFC-786D-4064-A9F9-7A8E434EC568@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 10:41:04 -0700 Message-Id: <32AB9AC2-066A-408E-B38A-655095E802F1@bsdimp.com> References: <20150225154327.GD1161@hub.FreeBSD.org> <20150225182201.216f6fee@nonamehost.local> <54EE05EA.3030509@FreeBSD.org> <8E4B6A07-BEB7-46B9-BFD2-0B3F33162760@gmail.com> <54EE1E38.30106@FreeBSD.org> <95891DFC-786D-4064-A9F9-7A8E434EC568@gmail.com> To: Garrett Cooper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2070.6) Cc: Ivan Klymenko , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Glen Barber , Arseny Nasokin , Allan Jude , Jung-uk Kim X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 17:41:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_252DEB80-FFCC-4C8F-AC67-F2E2FFEA7A8C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 [[ I know this is a bit stale, but this is a dangerous notion ]] > On Feb 25, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Garrett Cooper = wrote: > I was going to propose something a bit more radical =E2=80=94 I can = remove the BOOTSTRAPPING conditionals and simplify the code on 10-STABLE = / 11-CURRENT. >=20 > Maintaining BOOTSTRAPPING is error prone and it=E2=80=99s not saving = much time in the long run in builds (it's taking longer to diagnose = issues, test them, and commit fixes which will break at a later date). = I=E2=80=99ve been bitten by this once because I don=E2=80=99t run = ancient CURRENT/STABLE (r279198) and here are a couple follow up commits = bumping tools versions in the past (e.g. r278975, r269662, etc). >=20 > Just a thought. It=E2=80=99s a terrible thought. We=E2=80=99ve done the bootstrapping = thing for 15 years with very few bumps and biting. No need to ditch it because lately we=E2=80=99ve been = updating yacc more often w/o bumping the revision. Don=E2=80=99t remove it. There was more blood on the floor before we had = it than after. It documents how far back in time we try to support. Sure, things get = missed, but it isn=E2=80=99t always clear why we have things in the bootstrap tools. = Having them documented this way makes it clear. 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