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Date:      Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:19:23 -0600
From:      jacks@sage-american.com
To:        "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>, <lonnie@outstep.com>
Cc:        "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD and restricting users
Message-ID:  <3.0.5.32.20011219181923.01629508@mail.sage-american.com>
In-Reply-To: <00f401c188ea$d0829c70$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
References:  <01C188B0.4CDDA3E0@VAIO> <20011219223131.GC30574@dan.emsphone.com> <1008800406.3c2112967d195@mail.outstep.com>

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> and I'm not sure that it actually allows you to lock
>users out of the rest of the machine.
..."

...it doesn't...

At 01:10 AM 12.20.2001 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
>What about virtual servers?  Rather high overhead, but it's practically like
>giving them their own machine.  I don't know how well it would support X
>applications, though, and I'm not sure that it actually allows you to lock
>users out of the rest of the machine.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <lonnie@outstep.com>
>To: "Dan Nelson" <dnelson@allantgroup.com>
>Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
>Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 23:20
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD and restricting users
>
>
>> Thanks Dan,
>>
>> This is the same solution that I have already found from the Linux side as
>well
>> and is currently not an option for our particular impolementation.
>>
>> We really need to be able to limit the users from navigaiting out of their
>HOME
>> directories for this particular SPECIAL project.
>>
>> I just saw something on the FreeBSD website about "sandboxes" that might
>be
>> interesting in this respect, but I am not sure if it would be possible to
>put
>> each user graphicl login session into a "sandbox".
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Lonnie
>>
>> Quoting Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com>:
>>
>> > In the last episode (Dec 19), Lonnie Cumberland said:
>> > > The basic problem is this. It is very easy to keep a user from
>> > > entering into a directory after they have logged in, but it is VERY
>> > > hard to keep a user locked into their HOME directory.
>> > >
>> > > We have looked at chrooted solutions as well, but they fail when a
>> > > user logs in through XDM and start up an application like Netscape
>> > or
>> > > StarOffice. Once that happens, they are free to navigate throughout
>> > > the system.
>> > >
>> > > Can FreeBSD solve the problem of preventing a user from leaving
>> > their
>> > > HOME directory while still allowing them to run OpenOffice?
>> >
>> > If you really truly don't want them seeing anything outside their
>> > $HOME, chroot is your only choice.  Create a minimal /etc, /lib, /bin
>> > etc in each homedir and you should be set.  Note you'll have to
>> > replicate most of /usr/X11R6 for any X app to work.
>> >
>> > What exactly are you trying to keep users from doing?  A standard
>> > install should not expose any private info or leave directories
>> > incorrectly writable.  Just because they can browse into /etc doesn't
>> > mean they can do anything.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dan Nelson
>> > dnelson@allantgroup.com
>> >
>>
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Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
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