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Date:      Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:46:54 -0600
From:      "Jeremy Messenger" <mezz7@cox.net>
To:        "Joe Marcus Clarke" <marcus@marcuscom.com>
Cc:        gnome@freebsd.org, Luis Medinas <lmedinas@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Brasero on FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <op.t4dc8g0n9aq2h7@mezz.mezzweb.com>
In-Reply-To: <1199389012.64371.72.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com>
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On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:36:52 -0600, Joe Marcus Clarke  
<marcus@marcuscom.com> wrote:

>
> On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 13:15 -0600, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:26:01 -0600, Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>  
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:06:50 -0600, Joe Marcus Clarke
>> > <marcus@marcuscom.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 2008-01-01 at 03:52 +0000, Luis Medinas wrote:
>> >>> Hi
>> >>>
>> >>> As a co-maintainer of Brasero i'm tempted to ask why FreeBSD hasn't
>> >>> brasero 0.7.0 on the ports tree. None of us are using FreeBSD sadly  
>> but
>> >>> we can work together to make it work better for FreeBSD if it isn't
>> >>> working atm. Please bump brasero.
>> >>
>> >> To those interested, I updated the port to 0.7.0, but there are  
>> caveats.
>> >> I have not tested the runtime.  It requires the Linux SG SCSI support
>> >> which means it's limited to recent RELENG_6, RELENG_7, or -CURRENT.   
>> You
>> >> will also need the following in your kernel:
>> >>
>> >> device		sg
>> >
>> > Interesting, I don't know about sg. Bummer, there is no module for  
>> it. I
>> > can rebuild my kernel tonight or tomorrow and test it.
>>
>> Umm... It looks like HAL doesn't like sg device in kernel. The HAL just
>> doesn't function unless I boot in old kernel that has no sg. If I insert
>> blank CD or DVD and it doesn't auto recoginze blank CD/DVD unless I  
>> reboot
>> to use kernel without sg. I have tested it twice to make sure to boot in
>> kernel with and without sg. If you want me to debug, then I can and I  
>> will
>> have to check in FAQ for how to debug HAL.
>
> Looks like sg isn't going to work, then.  It would be a massive
> undertaking to port brasero to CAM the way it is now since only a file
> descriptor is passed to the SCSI code, and CAM would require the whole
> path (or a cam device struct).  This will mean lots of ifdefs.
>
> What might be better is to conditionalize the SCSI backend (maybe create
> a pluggable medium backends), and add either a HAL or a CAM backend to
> that.  I don't have the time to lay this framework, but if the brasero
> people did it, I would add the CAM backend (and HAL is already there).

It sounds like it's good time to add DEPRECATED/EXPIRATION_DATE in  
brasero. I would say give brasero two or three months for someone to fix  
it before we remove it from ports tree. What do you think?

Cheers,
Mezz

> Joe


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