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Date:      Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:32:34 -0500 (EST)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
Cc:        Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SUID-Directories patch 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.971114193159.18833P-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <13187.879556869@time.cdrom.com>

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On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> > I'm not sure that hackers is the right place for this (current would IMO
> > be more correct) but I have to say that I feel Julian has a strong point,
> > current _is_ the place for experimentation.  It would be different if the
> 
> I think that I already made my points about this about as well as I'm
> ever going to make them, so I'll say no more on the topic of what
> constitutes proper "experimentation" in -current.  If you want my
> rebuttal to this, read my original message again. :)
> 
> > code that he's bringing in was non-functional, but it isn't.  The argument
> > that it was a small part of the whole, and non-functional even in part,
> > could only be made about the older DEVFS, not the SUID stuff, so that
> 
> But I wasn't talking about the SUID stuff.

I just saw his SUID stuff go thru ... I thought that was what you guys
were referring to.  Sorry.

> 
> > Is what he's asking to remain something that is very fragmentary? No.
> > Is it is going in without prior testing?  No, not according to Julian's
> 
> What Julian considers "prior testing" and what we in core consider
> prior testing are fundamentally at odds here.  That's all I need to
> say.
> 
> > I mean, what's the downside of this?  Current isn't stable, that's one of
> > it's major attractions to me.  Let's not become too conservative ...
> 
> If anything, history will show that we haven't been nearly
> conservative enough.
> 
> 						Jordan
> 
> 

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