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Date:      Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:44:40 -0500
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        j mckitrick <jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org>
Cc:        Lamont Granquist <lamont@scriptkiddie.org>, Mit Rowe <mitayai@dreaming.org>, Sung Nae Cho <sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market!
Message-ID:  <15199.37416.171318.69242@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010726014626.A5169@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
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j mckitrick <jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org> types:
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 02:48:15PM -0700, Lamont Granquist wrote:
> | On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Mit Rowe wrote:
> | > I wouldn't use FreeBSD for a desktop if my life depended on it.
> | I've been using FreeBSD as desktops, both at home and on my work laptop,
> I've been running it on my laptop since 3.2.  I started with Linux and
> Win95, then dropped Linux for 3.2, then dropped Windows.  No complaints, no
> regrets.

My first FreeBSD desktop system was 3.0, installed on the day it was
released. I've had fewer problems with it than I do with either
Windows or the Mac, which some of my clients have insisted I use.

> | (Of course, I don't make heavy use of office apps -- I tend to use irc,
> | mozilla and vi+gcc mostly)
> I use Applix Office, ghostview, Licq, Xemacs, Netscrape, and others....

I don't use icq, and replaced Netscape with Mozilla and shortly after
replaced that with Skipstone, all of which are in the ports. Applix
Office is almost always running, and you can read my review of it at
<URL: http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/reviews/AO/ >. Xemacs and jpilot
are the other tools in the "constant use" category. The next tier down
includes ghostview, acroread, the gimp and xsane. Photopc has been
dropped since I picked up a USB smartmedia reader.

The bottom line is that -stable makes a very usable desktop if you
aren't a nerd about it. You don't get access to the latest and
greatest desktop hardware, because the manufacturers release it with
Windows drivers instead of FreeBSD drivers. On the other hand, you get
a system that can be changed to behave the way you want it to, and
isn't limited to the fixed set from the platform vendors. In my mind,
that makes it a far friendlier desktop than the commercial versions.

	<mike
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