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Date:      Wed, 25 Jun 2003 19:21:19 +0400
From:      Dmitry Sivachenko <demon@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Pawel Jakub Dawidek <nick@garage.freebsd.pl>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Jailed sysvipc implementation.
Message-ID:  <20030625152119.GA31396@fling-wing.demos.su>
In-Reply-To: <20030625150221.GL7587@garage.freebsd.pl>
References:  <20030624164602.GW7587@garage.freebsd.pl> <20030625135106.GA19868@fling-wing.demos.su> <20030625140518.GA23435@fling-wing.demos.su> <20030625144849.GJ7587@garage.freebsd.pl> <20030625145233.GA28322@fling-wing.demos.su> <20030625150221.GL7587@garage.freebsd.pl>

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On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 05:02:21PM +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 06:52:33PM +0400, Dmitry Sivachenko wrote:
> +> > But you got still *one* memory zones for every jail and main host.
> +> 
> +> Yes, that is exactly what I want.
> +> This is similar to separate IP stack for each jail:  this is more powerful
> +> solution, but more expensive (uses more kernel memory).
> 
> But note that my implementation allocates memory "on demand".

This is part of the problem:  with single memory zone for all jails,
less memory is allocated.  With private memory zones, if m jails use IPC,
you need to allocate m*M kbytes (for some value of M you consider
sufficient for one jail).

With one memory zone for all jails, it is enough to allocate N kbytes where
M < N < m*M, because every jail will not use all M kbytes at the same time.



> If IPC syscall will not be used inside of jail memory will not be allocated.
> If think also that this will be trivial to add value to jail struct
> that will thell if we want separate IPC memory zones for this jail or not.
> 
> +> Jail is not a true virtual machine.
> +> Let's keep it a *light* virtual machine replacement, with single IP stack,
> +> one memory zones for all jails and host, etc.
> 
> I think it should be and it isn't now because of implementaion problems.
> Am I wrong? Poul? Robert?
> 



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