Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 12:05:23 +0100 From: Florent Thoumie <flz@xbsd.org> To: Mikhail Teterin <mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> Subject: Re: right to criticize other people's volunteer work Message-ID: <6350C2D5-D0A4-462D-88E0-9C717F7BF992@xbsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200605051458.06891.mi%2Bmx@aldan.algebra.com> References: <200605041507.08581.mi%2Bmx@aldan.algebra.com> <200605051442.14572.mi%2Bmx@aldan.algebra.com> <20060505184619.GA4366@xor.obsecurity.org> <200605051458.06891.mi%2Bmx@aldan.algebra.com>
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On May 5, 2006, at 7:58 PM, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > =D0=BF'=D1=8F=D1=82=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=86=D1=8F 05 =D1=82=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0= =B5=D0=BD=D1=8C 2006 14:46, Kris Kennaway =20 > =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=B2: >> And he's acknowledged the problem and is working on it at his own >> pace..so again, you have options a), b), c) or the perhaps-mythical >> d). > > According to the discussion, he is also working on the =20 > restructuring of the > ports for 7.0. > > Although this work may be benefitial for the quicker roll-out of =20 > 7.1, I > suggested -- in response to the direct solicitation of advice -- =20 > that some > effort be directed towards support issues instead. That was the d) ... > > Now. I'll reiterate once again, that I strongly dislike your =20 > reaction. I > believe, criticism is Ok even in an all-volunteer project. I think it's just the way you said it. > It would be legitimate for you to defend the x11 team, but to deny =20 > me any > right to criticize at all, as you did with your: "Remind me again what > obligation Eric has to fix your problem?" -- is WRONG. Still it's volunteer work, just don't forget that. As for fixing dri/drm problems instead of working on xorg 7.0, keep =20 in mind that creating ports for xorg 7.0 doesn't require much =20 knowledge where fixing actual bugs in dri/drm does. I'm trying to =20 help Eric and Dejan on the xorg 7.0 side, but I'm not able to fix any =20= bug in dri/drm. --=20 Florent Thoumie flz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD Committer
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