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Date:      Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:28:59 +0000
From:      Da Rock <rock_on_the_web@hotmail.com>
To:        <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
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> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:52:26 +0100
> From: wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: what happened to linuxflashplugin?
>=20
>>
>>> this is just example of crap-design,
>>
>> I agree. Although I don't think everybody will.
>=20
> i don't care what others think.
>=20
>>> and i simply don't view them..
>>
>> I'm afraid it's not that simple. Counterexample:
>>
>> When I was shopping for a new parachute rig, one of the manufacturers I =
was
>> interested in turned out to have a Flash-only website. I could of course
>> have decided not to buy there because their website sucks, but when it
>> comes to equipment that's supposed to be going to save my life hundreds =
of
>> times I'd much rather base the decision on the quality of the product th=
an
>> on the technical soundness of a website, thank you :-)
>=20
> in case of things that has very few producers you are unfortunately true.
> in every other, narrowing the offer to half won't be disastrous, and thos=
e=20
> who made flash-only website will lose few% of potential clients.
>=20
> with well designed website (i don't mean it can't have flash, but it must=
=20
> be usable without) everybody will read.
>=20
> and making all-compatible site isn't difficult. it's very easy

And I agree wholeheartedly with both sentiments here. I design sites which =
I hope will reach 98% of the web, including disability access, and will be =
at least readable to browser that might not display content correctly. I th=
ink its a sham how a lot of web design companies- particularly here in Aust=
ralia- who take the "easy" way out and design poorly based on statistics an=
d familiar tools.

For reference any web designers out there: IE is not the number one browser=
 these days, and is losing ground because IE7 sucks (numerous bugs, includi=
ng problems with interoperability with MSN Messenger!). Firefox is growing =
as is OSS. So start changing guys! Adobe would do well to take note too....

What also can't understand is why web designers can't make better use of th=
e tools available on the servers themselves- they seem to be stuck on simpl=
e LAMP or whatever, and can't get around to using the other cool modules of=
fered by apache to reduce load on the server and speed up response. It is a=
 complete system after all.

Apologies for my rant, but trying to convince a customer on this is hard as=
 well  :)

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