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Date:      Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:41:27 +0300
From:      Kimmo Paasiala <kpaasial@gmail.com>
To:        Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer
Message-ID:  <CA%2B7WWSczejEQgeKUhvy2bguhTB2s0Hhm1DqFR2%2BP1W7iX0fZbg@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20130415103801.GA21132@zxy.spb.ru>
References:  <20130411201805.GD76816@FreeBSD.org> <20130414160648.GD96431@in-addr.com> <36562.1365960622.5652758659450863616@ffe10.ukr.net> <201304150025.07337.Mark.Martinec%2Bfreebsd@ijs.si> <951943801.20130415141536@serebryakov.spb.ru> <20130415103801.GA21132@zxy.spb.ru>

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On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 02:15:36PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
>
>> >> Yes! This is the most clever thought in this thread. Why we need 3
>> >> firewalls? Two packet filters it's excess too. We have two packet filters:
>> >> one with excellent syntax and functionality but with outdated bandwidth
>> >> control mechanism (aka ALTQ); another - with nice traffic
>> >> shaper/prioritization (dummynet)/classification (diffused) but with
>> >> complicated implementation  in not trivial tasks. May be the next step
>> >> will be discussion about one packet filter in the system?..
>>
>> MM> ... and as far as I can tell none of them is currently usable
>> MM> on an IPv6-only FreeBSD (like protecting a host with sshguard),
>> MM> none of them supports stateful NAT64, nor IPv6 prefix translation :(
>>  IPv6 prefix translation?! AGAIN!? FML. I've thought, that IPv6 will
>> render all that NAT nightmare to void. I hope, IPv6 prefix translation
>> will not be possible never ever!
>
> You disallow anonymization? NAT do anonymisation also.
> _______________________________________________

Please stop it already, NAT has never done any real anonymisation.
it's just one of the myths that just refuse to die. Use a real
anonymiser like Tor if you want to keep your identity hidden.

-Kimmo



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