Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 04:38:19 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> To: Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bris.ac.uk> Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /tmp, /var/log, /var/tmp as /dev/md - why? Message-ID: <20140702113819.GO45513@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <201407020832.s628WqWE014903@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <C8EFA73F-5D47-45A3-AF58-65E59A0BED95@bsdimp.com> <201407020832.s628WqWE014903@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk>
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Anton Shterenlikht wrote this message on Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 09:32 +0100:
> >From imp@bsdimp.com Tue Jul 1 18:09:59 2014
> >
> >On Jul 1, 2014, at 3:25 AM, Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bris.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Why is it a good idea to mount /tmp and some var dirs on memory disks:
> >>=20
> >> root@raspberry-pi:/usr/ports # df -m
> >> Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
> >> /dev/mmcsd0s2a 14694 777 12742 6% /
> >> devfs 0 0 0 100% /dev
> >> /dev/mmcsd0s1 16 3 13 20% /boot/msdos
> >> /dev/md0 28 4 22 16% /tmp
> >> /dev/md1 14 0 12 0% /var/log
> >> /dev/md2 4 0 4 0% /var/tmp
> >> root@raspberry-pi:/usr/ports #=20
> >>=20
> >> Is this about speed or power, or maybe space?
> >>=20
> >> Can I not put all these dirs on sd card?
> >>=20
> >> I'm new to arm, so maybe things are different
> >> to other arches.
> >
> >It isn=92t so much about ARM as it is about SD cards. Each write to a =
> >file causes wear and tear on the card. Each update of metadata likewise. =
> >There are things that can be done (like enabling trim) that reduce the =
> >wear and tear on the card, NAND flash only has so much life. Do you =
> >really want to use it for data that=92s at best disposable? No. SD cards =
> >these days are made from NAND that=92s lucky to get 3k separate writes =
> >to it (or even worse: 500 in the case of TLC NAND). Given such a limited =
> >resource, nanobsd, and others, use MD devices to eliminate that wear and =
> >tear. It is the same rason there=92s no swap partition...
> >
> >Having said that, I=92ve run many development systems without doing =
> >this. They work fine, but doing it in production has shown to result in =
> >some SD cards (not all) breaking prematurely.
> >
> >Warner
>
> Wow, thank you!
>
> I knew nothing about sd cards, so this is very helpful.
>
> So, if I need to build kernel, world and ports often,
> sd card is a poor choice? I better use an external disk?
If often, you mean once a week, then probably you'll be fine w/ SD
cards... If often you mean in a continuous loop, you still might
be fine as long as your life time of the SD card is fine at a couple
years, partly because w/ how slow ARM compiles code, you wouldn't
be writing that much data out...
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