Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2019 10:47:51 -0500 From: Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ntpd configutration -- a small suggestion from the peanut gallery Message-ID: <cac5d1a8-3291-c7d2-b6ac-b42990f264b4@denninger.net> In-Reply-To: <20190607163631.461dc2b1@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <48793.1559715528@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1906050834470.5734@enterprise.ximalas.info> <20190606171120.29f7fd85@gumby.homeunix.com> <37c862b6-f623-4210-9c77-c404e31f4808@www.fastmail.com> <20190607163631.461dc2b1@gumby.homeunix.com>
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This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050806000105020403040609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6/7/2019 10:36 AM, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Fri, 07 Jun 2019 10:57:01 +0200 > Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > >> On Thu, 6 Jun 2019, at 18:14, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: >>> On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 08:40:51 +0200 (CEST) >>> Trond Endrest=C3=B8l wrote: >>> =20 >>>> On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 23:18-0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >>>> =20 >>>>> I feel sure that I'll be able to figure out how to get ntpd >>>>> properly enabled & configured, but I would just like to offer, >>>>> hunbly, to the Powers That Be, that it would be Nice if ntpd, >>>>> once enabled during install, just worked, you know, right outta >>>>> the box. >>>> Adding >>>> >>>> ntpd_sync_on_start=3D"YES" >>>> >>>> to /etc/rc.conf is one way. >>> Perhaps it should be the default. >> It is in CURRENT[1] & would be worth MFC although possibly too late >> for 11.3R. > That affects the istaller, but it's still off in defaults/rc.conf. Losing a way to synchronously (with a reasonable timeout) set the time=20 on boot is IMHO a nasty reversion and will bite people hard. There are=20 plenty of things that react VERY poorly to the time going backward;=20 Dovecot is one of the more-popular ones (it EXITS if that happens!) so=20 this sort of change IMHO needs careful consideration or a cold reboot of = a server is likely to lead to services that do not come back up. --=20 -- Karl Denninger /The Market-Ticker/ S/MIME Email accepted and preferred --------------ms050806000105020403040609 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgMFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCC DdgwggagMIIEiKADAgECAhMA5EiKghDOXrvfxYxjITXYDdhIMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMIGL MQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEQMA4GA1UECAwHRmxvcmlkYTESMBAGA1UEBwwJTmljZXZpbGxlMRkw FwYDVQQKDBBDdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgTExDMRgwFgYDVQQLDA9DdWRhIFN5c3RlbXMgQ0ExITAf BgNVBAMMGEN1ZGEgU3lzdGVtcyBMTEMgMjAxNyBDQTAeFw0xNzA4MTcxNjQyMTdaFw0yNzA4 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