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Date:      Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:40:06 +0100
From:      Willem Jan Withagen <wjw@digiware.nl>
To:        Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org>, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>
Cc:        FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, Victor Sudakov <vas@mpeks.tomsk.su>
Subject:   Re: tap(4) and host-only networking between host and guest
Message-ID:  <563C9FA6.9040909@digiware.nl>
In-Reply-To: <563C6029.5010109@grosbein.net>
References:  <20151104075454.GA99850@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <5639FF12.1020109@freebsd.org> <20151104131230.GA1117@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20151104184503.GC1117@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <563B8C9A.7070104@grosbein.net> <563BF60B.5090201@quip.cz> <CAG=rPVcj7Uh0WG=o2gHRPcfAc3bbH59WLCXXURWm4Y-x4HXn8w@mail.gmail.com> <563C6029.5010109@grosbein.net>

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On 6-11-2015 09:09, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> On 06.11.2015 07:59, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote:
>>
>>> Eugene Grosbein wrote on 11/05/2015 18:06:
>>>
>>>> Yes, it is. And there is a solution:
>>>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=165174
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't understand why such useful patches are left uncommited and without
>>> any comments in PR for years.
>>>
>>>
>> This is not official project policy, but in future, I recommend that for
>> submitting patches to the
>> project, people try to use the steps at: https://wiki.freebsd.org/CodeReview
>> to submit the patch to Phabricator.
>>
>> As a FreeBSD developer, I personally find that Phabricator is easier to
>> work with patches thatn Bugzilla.
>>
>> Other FreeBSD developers may disagree with me, but more FreeBSD developers
>> are starting to use Phabricator.
> 
> I've just read https://wiki.freebsd.org/CodeReview and registered at Phabricator.
> It seems more developer-centric (it needs commit-messages etc.)
> and over-complicated for non-developer reporting small bug and supplying small fix.

I will register there, but I have the same feeling as Eugene.
It feels like quite more hassle for committing a bugreports, and or a
small 2 line fixer.

On the other hand, if that is where a lot of the discussion on fixes and
patches is moving to..... It needs to be advertised as such.

--WjW





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