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Date:      Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:49:32 -0600
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@Denninger.Net>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)
Message-ID:  <20000102104932.B23036@Denninger.Net>
In-Reply-To: <8598.946831344@critter.freebsd.dk>; from Poul-Henning Kamp on Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 05:42:24PM %2B0100
References:  <20000102103732.A23004@Denninger.Net> <8598.946831344@critter.freebsd.dk>

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That sucks severely - NONE of the common units have the PPS output?!

Barf.  Oh well.

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Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net)  Web: http://childrens-justice.org
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On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 05:42:24PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message <20000102103732.A23004@Denninger.Net>, Karl Denninger writes:
> >On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 04:55:44PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >> 
> >> >BTW, speaking of which, does anyone know of a reasonably-cheap GPS receiver
> >> >that (1) has an external-able antenna that will work with somewhere between
> >> >50 and 100 feet of lead, and (2) has the appropriate pps outputs and such
> >> >so it can be used for this?
> >> 
> >> I will (as always) recommend the Motorola Oncore UT+.  If you buy it
> >> from syngergy-gps it comes mounted in their nice box and the cable
> >> has the PPS on DCD and is ready to plug into a serial port.  I paid
> >> $605.73 for the one I'm delivering to the Danish Internet eXchange
> >> point, that included antenna and 15m of cable.
> >
> >That's EXPENSIVE.
> >
> >Common handheld GPS units with NEMA outputs on them are well under $200
> >these days!
> 
> Common handheld GPS units are pointless as NTP refclocks because they 
> lack (a decent) PPS output.
> 
> --
> Poul-Henning Kamp             FreeBSD coreteam member
> phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
> FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far!


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