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Date:      Fri, 5 Apr 2002 00:38:08 +0200
From:      "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>
To:        "Mike Meyer" <mwm-dated-1018387396.37b617@mired.org>
Cc:        "Randall Hamilton" <nitedog@silly.pikachu.org>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix
Message-ID:  <001201c1dc29$6503eb10$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
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Mike writes:

> Not for common window management tasks.

Most people using desktop computers are interested in more than just window
management.

> Apple's original design was intended to make
> life easy for casual computer users, not for
> the relatively intense usage that is typical
> today.

I don't see any typically intense use.

> And MS looks almost exactly like the Mac
> for the same reason that BeOS did - they
> copied it from the Mac.

In the same way that the Mac copied it from Smalltalk?

If it's such a bad idea, why is it being copied over and over?

> In other words, you were talking through
> your hat, and letting your biases control
> what you said, instead of actually having
> anything objective.

I used the words that best conveyed my meaning; "other words" are not
necessary or accurate.

> I think you aren't listing them because they
> don't exist. If they do, go ahead and list
> them and quit ducking the issues.

Well, there are 100,000 applications or so available for Windows, and
virtually none of them will run on any other platform.

> Of course, if I press you for details on "all
> else", you won't have anything.

If I press you for details, you won't have anything, either.  So what?

> The existence of that minority proves that
> the majority that insists that everyone is
> just like them is wrong.

The majority usually insists that most people are like them, and they are
right.


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