Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 07:18:40 +0100 From: "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@atkielski.com> To: <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Brett Glass" <brett@lariat.org> Subject: Re: Confirm Your PayPal Membership Message-ID: <004601c18e9e$54925e20$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011226145226.021974b0@localhost>
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PayPal currently owes me over $400. They won't let me withdraw it, they won't let me transfer it, and they won't let me close the account. They operate out of a post-office box, and they send form replies to all my queries and ignore my faxes. Something is wrong with the company, IMO. And to think that they are planning an IPO. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett Glass" <brett@lariat.org> To: <chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 22:52 Subject: Re: Confirm Your PayPal Membership > Andreas: > > It's actually worse than that. > > PayPal doesn't stop at wanting your credit card information. > It also hectors you to provide it with your bank account > information, and doesn't let you do most things you might > want to do with their service unless you provide it. > > Providing your bank account number is very dangerous both > from a security and privacy standpoint and as a consumer > issue. While the law (at least in the United States) provides > you with good protection against fraudulent credit card > transactions, the protection against improper direct debits > from your checking account is much weaker. Your account can be > cleaned out and it can take months for you to get your money > back (if you ever do). > > I don't advise that anyone sign up with PayPal. If I want > to give to the FreeBSD Foundation, I'll take the time to write > a check. > > --Brett > > At 05:55 AM 12/26/2001, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > >Dear sirs and madams, > > > >I want to cancel my account and the whole transaction > >of $50 to the FreeBSD foundation. > > > >And please give me my $1.94 back immediately latest date is > >until December 31th 2001. > > > >Reason: You charged me $ 1.94 without my confirmation ! > > > >I only pressed a continue button (not a confirmation button > >to be charged a certain amount of money) on a webpage where you > >told, that transactions below $100 don't need a paypal card > >verification. > > > >After simply pressing continue I got the *first time* the information > >from you that you would charge me $ 1.94. Furthermore You tell me, > >after pay pal card registration, I would get charged it back to my > >account. > > > >But actually > >- I never wanted to be charged $ 1.94 > >- I never gave you my o.k. to charge $ 1.94 > >- I would never have made the transaction of $50 through you > > if I would have known, that recommended is to confirm/get a > > card number and being charged automatically without confirmation. > > > >After I saw this charging information, I immediately stopped everything > >and thought that nothing would happen, since I didn't confirm being > >charged $1.94. > > > >But now you write to me in the e-mail below, that I already have been > >charged. That's NOT FAIR ! > > > >I will immediately inform my VISA card support line and block the > >transaction. > > > >Immediately remove my account and all my personal data. > >I don't allow you to keep, store or resell it ! > > > >Thanks for your kooperation. > > > > Andreas Klemm > > > > > >On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 03:12:30AM -0800, service@paypal.com wrote: > >> Dear Andreas Klemm, > >> > >> This is a reminder that we need you to confirm your PayPal membership. > >> The credit card to which we sent the Membership Confirmation Number > >> was added to your PayPal account on 26 December 2001, and ends in > >> the last four digits 1888. > >> > >> Please follow the steps below to confirm your PayPal membership > >> > >> How to confirm your membership: > >> > >> PayPal has charged a $1.95 membership fee to the credit card you just > >> registered. This $1.95 fee will be refunded to your PayPal account > >> when you complete the membership confirmation process below: > >> > >> 1. In the item description section of your monthly credit card statement, > >> a 4-digit PayPal Membership Confirmation Number will be printed next > >> to the $1.95 charge. Check your monthly credit card statement to find > >> your unique Membership Confirmation Number. > >> > >> 2. Click the link below and type in your unique Membership Confirmation > >> Number: > >> > >> https://www.paypal.com/CC-CONFIRM > >> > >> If you access your credit card statement online, it may take up to > >> 4 business days for your Membership Confirmation Number to appear. If you > >> do not have online access to your credit card statement, please wait for > >> your printed statement to be mailed to you.* > >> > >> After confirming your card, you will be able to use your credit card to > >> send money with your credit card through PayPal. > >> > >> Remember, confirming your credit card is one of the requirements for > >> receiving your $5 New Account bonus. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> > >> > >> PayPal Credit Card Services > >> > >> *Note: PayPal strongly discourages users from calling their credit card > >> companies in order to obtain their PayPal Membership Confirmation Number > >> before receiving their monthly statements in the mail. If PayPal receives a > >> complaint from Visa, MasterCard, or your card issuer regarding your account, > >> your PayPal account may be permanently closed. > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >> PROTECT YOUR PASSWORD > >> > >> NEVER give your password to anyone. If anyone asks > >> you for your password, please follow the Security > >> Tips instructions on the PayPal.com website. > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > > > Andreas /// > > > >-- > >Andreas Klemm Powered by FreeBSD > >My homepage ............................... http://people.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas > >Apsfilter Homepage ........................ http://www.apsfilter.org/ > >Songs from our band >> 64Bits << ........ http://www.64bits.de > >Inofficial band pages with add-on stuff.. http://www.apsfilter.org/64bits.html > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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