Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:51:58 -0600 From: Mike Meyer <mwm-dated-1018392719.4d73cd@mired.org> To: "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com> Cc: "Randall Hamilton" <nitedog@silly.pikachu.org>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix Message-ID: <15532.55566.545491.30092@guru.mired.org> In-Reply-To: <001201c1dc29$6503eb10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> References: <20020402113404.A52321@lpt.ens.fr> <3CA9854E.A4D86CC4@mindspring.com> <20020402123254.H49279@lpt.ens.fr> <009301c1da83$9fa73170$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15530.6987.977637.574551@guru.mired.org> <012601c1dadb$104d5100$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15531.2846.277278.29276@guru.mired.org> <005e01c1db44$e10d2a40$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15531.27851.19169.720598@guru.mired.org> <001301c1db55$7c883950$0301a8c0@NITEDOG> <009201c1db5e$41b1baa0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15531.33743.830853.456500@guru.mired.org> <00c801c1db62$baa46b20$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15531.36674.46968.714882@guru.mired.org> <003e01c1db8d$88a745e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15532.50244.102425.795045@guru.mired.org> <001201c1dc29$6503eb10$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
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In <001201c1dc29$6503eb10$0a00000a@atkielski.com>, Anthony Atkielski <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com> typed: > Mike writes: > > Not for common window management tasks. > Most people using desktop computers are interested in more than just window > management. Actually, most people using desktop computers are totally uninterested in window management - it's something they have to do to get real work done. Only people who are actually interested in improving their work environment so they can get more work done care about such things. > I don't see any typically intense use. I didn't say it was typical. > In the same way that the Mac copied it from Smalltalk? Apple didn't copy it from Smalltalk, but they did get it from Xerox. > If it's such a bad idea, why is it being copied over and over? Because the people doing the copying are to lazy to actually investigate the problem and design something better. > I used the words that best conveyed my meaning; "other words" are not > necessary or accurate. No, you used words that gave your spin on thing. I expanded those to the truth. > Well, there are 100,000 applications or so available for Windows, and > virtually none of them will run on any other platform. True. But there are similar numbers of applications available for Unix, and virtually none of them run on Windows. Is there a point in here, or just more of your usual arm-waving bull? > > Of course, if I press you for details on "all > > else", you won't have anything. > If I press you for details, you won't have anything, either. Bullshit. I provide details if you ask. You don't ask, because you know I can back up what I say and you can't. Let's see: I listed the hardware I have, you haven't listed any that is in common use that I can't use on FreeBSD. I gave you an objective paper on window management, you haven't got one. You refuse to provide an application list, because you know everything you do can be done on FreeBSD, except for the trap of proprietary document formats. And so on. > > The existence of that minority proves that > > the majority that insists that everyone is > > just like them is wrong. > The majority usually insists that most people are like them, and they are > right. So why don't you do that, and not bother those of us who are differnt from the majority, and act surprised and upset when your biases turn out to be false for us? <mike -- Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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