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Date:      Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:05:10 -0700
From:      Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
To:        hart@dotat.com
Cc:        freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, wollman@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 802.1Q VLAN support 
Message-ID:  <199810010105.SAA04638@dingo.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 01 Oct 1998 00:29:32 %2B0930." <199809301459.AAA15771@at.dotat.com> 

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> 
> I'm developing some single board computer applications that require
> 802.1Q vlan support (of the simplest kind) and in trawling through
> these list archives I found mention of if_vlan.c ...:
> 
> /*
>  * ...
>  * ...
>  * ...
>  * 
>  *      $Id: if_vlan.c,v 1.3 1998/08/23 03:07:10 wollman Exp $
>  */
> 
> /*
>  * if_vlan.c - pseudo-device driver for IEEE 802.1Q virtual LANs.
>  * Might be extended some day to also handle IEEE 802.1p priority
>  * tagging.  This is sort of sneaky in the implementation, since
>  * we need to pretend to be enough of an Ethernet implementation
>  * to make arp work.  The way we do this is by telling everyone
>  * that we are an Ethernet, and then catch the packets that
>  * ether_output() left on our output queue queue when it calls
>  * if_start(), rewrite them for use by the real outgoing interface,
>  * and ask it to send them.
>  */
> 
> This is about all I can find in the kernel-current source tree that
> relates to 802.1Q - there's little or no documentation I can find
> that tells me how to start using this code...(god help me if it's
> there and I havn't looked hard enough :[)

'pseudo-device vlan X'

will get it into the kernel.  However it seems that there's a missing 
userland application required for the 'SIOC[GS]ETVLAN' ioctls.

You ought to ask Garrett about this.

> PS - my work with 802.1Q has found that, despite the current draft
> spec suggesting that each vendor should decide on their own what
> to do about the problem of having a larger frame size due to the
> extra 4 byte VLAN header, most vendors have opted to support an
> increas by four bytes in the frame size...
>
> It should be noted that if FreeBSD is going to support this in
> any sensible manner, it should start including an option for
> changing ETHER_MAX_LEN in the kernel, either real time or at
> compile time...

Ick.  How does this impact hardware with frame size limitations?

You'll need to differentiate between "how big a frame is allowed to be" 
and "how big we will normally make a frame".

Diffs would be good. 8)

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