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Date:      Mon, 7 May 2001 14:46:18 -0700
From:      "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu>
Cc:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>, asami@FreeBSD.ORG, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master
Message-ID:  <20010507144618.A12252@dragon.nuxi.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010507163119.H3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu>; from will@physics.purdue.edu on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 04:31:19PM -0500
References:  <20010507125604P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010507163119.H3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu>

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On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 04:31:19PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote:
> Yes, I'd say remove all package sets prior to the last two releases, and
> keep ongoing package sets for -stable and -current.

Should we think more carefully about this?  We have users that install a
release and stick with it for a long time.  But they still like to be
able to install packages with minimal effort.  Do we want to break these
case?  I guess this is one argument for having `pkg_add -r' use
package-<branch>-stable rather than package-<release>.
 
> 	snapshots/*
> 		remove, rely on releng{4,5}.freebsd.org instead.. is
> 		there any reason to keep old snaps?

If we don't want to mirror one snapshot, then why are we in FTP mirroring
business?  Does NetBSD send you all over the place to get bits?
We laugh at Linux because they do cause you have to have to all over the
place for bits.  Is diskspace really *that* big of an issue?  Should we
take up donations for disks?  I thought BW was the real issue, and the
popularity of certain files, not their size is the issue there.

BTW, releng{4,5}.freebsd.org exist because they are the snapshot builders.
There was no reason to not offer FTP access to them on the local machine
since they were built there.  This is not the case with the Alpha snapshots.
AFAIK, they were never intended to replace ftp.freebsd.org.  JKH has kept
a "stable" -current snapshot on ftp.freebsd.org for quite some time.

> 	tools/*
> 		move to /pub/FreeBSD-archive

Why??  People need these.

Maybe we should discuss just what our purpose in offering an FTP site is
for.  Is it just to get the latest release bits?

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-- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)
          Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion.

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