Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 12:43:36 +0200 (EET) From: Bernie <Bernie_X@myrealbox.com> To: Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: leafnode question Message-ID: <20020127121504.T178-100000@BLAST> In-Reply-To: <20020127052145.GB1370@raggedclown.net>
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hi and thanks for your reply. On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 03:32:47AM +0200, Bernie wrote: > > > > hello, > > > > i've just configured pine to work with getmail + leafnode > > for reading email and news. it seems to be going ok, but > > it seems i have a problem with leafnode. > > > > first, about my setup, it's workstation with dialup to isp. > > no local network exists. only dialup. so i've been trying > > to avoid running things like sendmail and nntp etc. > > > > it seems that leafnode doesn't run automaticaly on my configuration. > > i'm not sure if i'm right, but from what i gathered, leafnode is > > supposed to connect (run fetchnews) automaticaly when a client wants > > to read news. > > Nope. > > > > > so far, i got it to work, so i can read news from local directory > > using pine, but if i want to see if there are new posts for a group > > i got to run fetchmain manualy. > > > Yup. > > > also, if i try to read the body of a message, i get a message saying: > > leafnode... message ... has been marked for retrival. if i want to see > > this nessage i have to run fetchmail manualy. is this the way it's > > supposed to be working? i thought that when i select a group from > > pine, leafnode would connect and get all new headers, and if i choose > > a header, it would connect and retrieve the body... > > Nope. > > Leafnode is meant for you to create a little local news-server. > When configured and you run "fetchnews" for the first time it will > download all the info on the news-groups your up-stream news feed > supports. > Generally when users subscribe to a newsgroup the headers for that > group will be downloaded at the next fetchnews run. > > Your users should indicate that their news-server is now ..wherever > it is on your network. When they run up their news program and > mark a message for reading it does what you say, it marks it for > retrieval. Subsequent runs of fetchnews will get the messages so > marked. (I don't think you would want it to fire off a new connection > every time you mark a message for reading!). Normally you would run > fetchnews from a cron job, or by hand if you like, once/twice a day > or whatever. this is all too bad... in fact, this is exactly what i try to do. everytime i select a message for reading, provided that i'm connected to the net, it should retrieve the message imediately! what i'm trying to do is what netscape news-reader does by default, but wanna do it using pine. this is to avoid all the speed problems you get with pine if you scroll the headers list if you connect directly to the news server on the net... maybe now that im' learning scripting (btw, i'm going for sh) i'll try to do a script that checks if i'm connected to the net, and if so it will run getmail + leafnode every 2 minutes or so, and as you said, set it to get the bodies as well. i'm not sure if it's gonna work. maybe it will take too much of my little 56k bandwidth if i subscribe to a busy group. still however, i think that retrieving the nessage imediately if i select it is a very logical thing to ask for. if i select a message, it means i want to read it now. not next time fetchnews runs. also, if i post a question, i want to be getting the answers in real-time automaticaly. it is usualy the case that i'm stucked with something and can't do anything more on my own, so i post and wait impatiently for a reply. that reply i wanna see it imediately when it comes, and i dont want to run fetchmail manualy every two minutes... if we forget leafnode for a second, can you see any other solution on the problem? maybe some other tool? something that when you fire it up, if you are on the net, it would get all new headers for the groups you are subscribed ( and store them localy so that it doesn't connect to the news server if you scroll the headers), and also retrieve imediately any message body you select for reading. not necessarily something that works with pine. any tool or dediacated news-reader with that behaviour will do. one thing though, it's got to be text-based. i realy like the text-base tools, like pine, but they seem to be designed with the lan/fast connection in mind, not for 56k dialup. the exact opposite from news agents for ms-win that seem to be made for dial up. any suggestions will be wellcome. thank you for all your help, Regards, --Bernie > > You can however configure it differently, and for a dial-up much more > expensively, so that when any newsgroup is subscribed to not only > the headers but the body of the message is also downloaded for the > all messages in the group (up to a configurable maximum). This is fine > if you are not paying telephone/connection time charges, but otherwise > can be very expensive. I do it this way, but I have a fixed price > 24/7 ADSL link so it has no cost implications for me. When I was using > a dial-up ISDN line I was much more circumspect ! > > > -- > Regards > Cliff > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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