Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 14:14:02 -0700 From: Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org> To: Pav Lucistnik <pav@freebsd.org> Cc: Sideris Michael <msid@daemons.gr>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports structure and improvement suggestions Message-ID: <20060508211402.GB49575@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <1147119806.18944.59.camel@ikaros.oook.cz> References: <20060508200926.GA6005@daemons.gr> <1147119806.18944.59.camel@ikaros.oook.cz>
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On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 10:23:26PM +0200, Pav Lucistnik wrote: > Sideris Michael pí?e v po 08. 05. 2006 v 23:09 +0300: > > > Also, it would be nice to include tools like portupgrade, not > > portupgrade, in the base system. > > Yes, it would be nice. You're going to write it? It must be in shell > or in C. Expecting patches. > ... . > > The conclusion is: the code will not write by itself. > > Nice. > > It should not be necessary once we have OPTIONS everywhere, but, what > about a script that would emulate Gentoo's emerge -pv ? That would rock. > This is likely to start a flame war, or at least a spit-ball fight. I hope not.... Some months ago after using RedHat's update stuff, a few people seemed a bit upset at my enthusiasm. Since then RH got greedy and stopped their free or cheapware approach and I eventually found the next best altrnative to FBSD: Ubuntu. Among their ``idiotware'' apps is a GUI front end to their apt-get stuff. In 11 months of use, I've managened to keep 2 Ubuntu systems current with a few mouseclicks a month. Nutshell, is there a way of using this approach? If not, is there a way of perl- or /bin/sh- or /bin/ch- bundling portupgrade with pkgdb, and other upgrade programs to get something more rational working? Most of the times that portupgrade screws up, it is due to a build failure. Sometimes it's easy to figure out why the build failed; when it is a ./configure snafu, it's always hours of time backtracing. Time N failed builds. ...Too much. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix
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